Re: [ENDED] ChipMixer Signature Campaign | May 26, 2017, 07:45:12 PM
⭐ Merited by famososMuertos (1)
Bien dicen que la curiosidad mató al gato, y le he preguntado a nuestra IA favorita el porque de el cierre de ChipMixer, y resulta que no solo fue por lavado de dinero, sino que también la financiación del terrorismo, lo cual me ha dejado con mas dudas.
Y creo que es un tema en el cual mejor no indagar, ya que mientras menos nos involucremos, mejor para nosotros.
Y creo que es un tema en el cual mejor no indagar, ya que mientras menos nos involucremos, mejor para nosotros.
Yo ayer me enteré de otra cosa. Hay quien sostiene, basándose en un documento legal, que publicitar mixers es publicitar un servicio ilegal:
In the US, a money transmitter license is required as mixers are classified as a "money services business." No mixer has one, as far as I know...
https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1574581/download
Sorry to put it so bluntly but anyone advertising a mixer that doesn't have this license is advertising an illegal business (if the business is servicing US-based customers, anyway).
Funny, its actually been the case since May 2019, but either nobody here knew this or the ones who did never said anything about it.
Not saying the forum administration needs to make changes either way, but individuals participating in mixer sig campaigns should at least be aware of this.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1574581/download
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18. Based on my training and experience, I am aware the Bank Secrecy Act requires
anyone who owns or controls a money transmitting business to register with the United States
Department of the Treasury. See 31 U.S.C. § 5330(a)(1). I am further aware that federal
regulations issued pursuant to the Bank Secrecy Act define a money services business, which
include money transmitter(s). 31 C.F.R. § 1010.100(ff)(5). Money transmitters are defined
broadly to include anyone who accept(s) . . . currency, funds, or other value that substitutes for
currency from one person and . . . transmi(ts) . . . currency, funds, or other value that substitutes
for currency to another location or person by any means, as well as [a]ny other person engaged
in the transfer of funds. 31 C.F.R. § 1010.100(ff)(5)(i)(A)-(B). MSBs are required to register
with FinCEN, a division of the Department of the Treasury, unless specific exemptions apply. 31
C.F.R. § 1022.380(a)(1). MSBs are required to establish and maintain anti-money laundering
programs, to detect and report suspicious transactions, and to collect certain records of customers
and customer transactions. I am further aware that bitcoin mixers or tumblers such as
ChipMixer are considered to be MSBs under federal law. See U.S. Department of Treasury
FinCEN Guidance, Application of FinCENs Regulations to Certain Business Models Involving
Convertible Virtual Currencies, FIN-2019-G001 (May 9, 2019), at 19-20.
anyone who owns or controls a money transmitting business to register with the United States
Department of the Treasury. See 31 U.S.C. § 5330(a)(1). I am further aware that federal
regulations issued pursuant to the Bank Secrecy Act define a money services business, which
include money transmitter(s). 31 C.F.R. § 1010.100(ff)(5). Money transmitters are defined
broadly to include anyone who accept(s) . . . currency, funds, or other value that substitutes for
currency from one person and . . . transmi(ts) . . . currency, funds, or other value that substitutes
for currency to another location or person by any means, as well as [a]ny other person engaged
in the transfer of funds. 31 C.F.R. § 1010.100(ff)(5)(i)(A)-(B). MSBs are required to register
with FinCEN, a division of the Department of the Treasury, unless specific exemptions apply. 31
C.F.R. § 1022.380(a)(1). MSBs are required to establish and maintain anti-money laundering
programs, to detect and report suspicious transactions, and to collect certain records of customers
and customer transactions. I am further aware that bitcoin mixers or tumblers such as
ChipMixer are considered to be MSBs under federal law. See U.S. Department of Treasury
FinCEN Guidance, Application of FinCENs Regulations to Certain Business Models Involving
Convertible Virtual Currencies, FIN-2019-G001 (May 9, 2019), at 19-20.
Sorry to put it so bluntly but anyone advertising a mixer that doesn't have this license is advertising an illegal business (if the business is servicing US-based customers, anyway).
Funny, its actually been the case since May 2019, but either nobody here knew this or the ones who did never said anything about it.
Not saying the forum administration needs to make changes either way, but individuals participating in mixer sig campaigns should at least be aware of this.
Yo creo que con esto habrá quien ha aprovechado para tomarse un descanso del foro. Algunos de la campaña no escribían a penas, aunque los más activos se han apresurado a entrar en la campaña de otro mixer. Pero vista la cita que acabo de poner, creo que si me quedo sin campaña de firmas me lo voy a pensar muy mucho en postular a la de un mixer. Yo no creo que vayan a por los participantes de la campaña pero creo que no sería descartable del todo a futuro por publicitar un servicio ilegal a sabiendas.