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Re: [ANN] Whirlwind.money | ⚡No Fee⚡ | Ultimate Privacy | Bitcoin Mixer
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whirlwindmoney
on 14/04/2023, 14:35:26 UTC
⭐ Merited by hugeblack (5)
Now that sounds exciting, and your project sounds ambitious
Has this problem been resolved?

After getting the confirmations, I went to the withdrawal page, entered the note, and the withdrawal address with a delay of zero hours. I got my coins after about 30 minutes, which was surprising (I thought the withdrawal would be instantaneous).
As of now we are consolidating all received UTXOs at every output transaction so it's not possible to send instantaneous withdrawals for every 0 hour delay request. They are sent randomly either at the :30 minute mark or at :00 every hour.

Are there any plans for these proposals?

* At first I tried to access the site without javascript, unfortunately the site does not work.
Suggestion:
Create a clean copy (e.g https://clean.whirlwind.money/) with basic features that do not require JavaScript.

Why not trying to do some off-network transactions using, for example, anonymous LN hub or something like:
 - TumbleBit: An Untrusted Bitcoin-Compatible Anonymous Payment Hub: https://github.com/BUSEC/TumbleBit
 - A2L: Anonymous Atomic Locks for Scalability in Payment Channel Hubs
JS is needed for the functionality so we cannot offer a clean version with the current system. On the other hand we will open source the frontend and that will also reveal the backend's endpoints so you will be able to run it yourself.

LN hubs and similar things would complicate everything tremendously and we can't afford that as of now. It's still a challenge to explain and convince users of the undeniable privacy advantages that Whirlwind offers over any other service since nothing similar existed before.

This is also the reason why we didn't already implement the Blind Certificates, besides the fact that users don't seem to care or have any issues with the fact that other services are outright lying about not storing logs (mixing code) among other things, so it's hard to see how the Blind Certificates would add any value.

-Pay to Note
This seems like something new, but I still see that your problem is with the withdrawal, if there is no option for the user to choose the withdrawal fee or it is random, then the problem still exists.

However, at this moment I can't access .money, it gives me an error message related to security.
There is no problem with the withdraw since you can choose exactly the amount that you want to receive. As an example let's say you made a 1BTC deposit and got a Note, afterwards you could withdraw 0.5BTC to an address and the rest at a later time. You don't need to spend the entire balance in one go. You are in full control over the process so we don't see how not having the option to choose the withdrawal fee could ever be a problem. You can choose your own "fee" by leaving some coins on the Note's balance which you can withdraw at a later time regardless.

Clearnet is unavailable for now, please use Tor version until it's sorted out:
Ironically after our latest message the DDoS attacks intensified a lot, so for the time being clearnet is down. The Tor version works perfectly so please use that instead for now, we will solve the issue in the next hours. We will also add a suggestion to use the Tor version on the clearnet site whenever it's under heavy enough DDoS that it doesen't load anymore.