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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]
by
paxmao
on 22/05/2023, 11:33:51 UTC
What I am "saying" is that how come no one in the RF seem to be worried about having an irregular army waging war in Ukraine, I mean, they are in Ukraine now, they can be in the streets of Moscow tomorrow - we are talking thousands. Or is the way Putin protects himself from a coup, by having two competing armies?
It is more strange to me that Ukraine is not worried about Nazi armed formations like Azov and Kraken, or Luftwaffe aerial reconnaissance units, but I understand what you mean.

That is because Ukraine has nationalists, but no more Nazis than Russia or, for that matter, the US - so they do not worry about your imaginary friends because they are yours.

People in Ukraine fought the real Nazis in WW II. Putin is currently acting like a Nazi (e.g. 15 years of prison for anyone complaining).

 The main reason for this war is Crimea. Putin needs a port that the RF can use all through the year and he has decided that it is even better to have the base in Sebastopol and steal from Ukraine Mariupol and anything in between the two.



Wagner is an illegal armed group in Russia, it's no secret that Wagner's commander Dmitry Utkin is an ideological Nazi. Therefore, they are thrown into the most difficult combat missions, the more they kill Ukrainian Nazis and the more they themselves die in battle, the more successfully denazification is moving forward in Ukraine. It's ironic that denazification happens at the hands of the Nazis themselves, isn't it?

Next, you need to separate the core of Wagner and the prisoners who temporarily joined them, who did the main work to free Bakhmut. This is a unique experiment on the socialization of former prisoners, in which approximately 35-40 thousand people took part. According to curator Vagner Prigozhin, 26,000 of them have already completed their six-month contract and demobilized, with a severance allowance of 1,200,000 rubles, combat veteran status, an extinguished criminal record (and a Wagner medal in case of injury or special merit). These people are now free, without weapons and with a good chance for a new life. I think that this experiment is quite successful.

ps Excellent speech by Zelensky in the US Congress on December 21, 2022, about the role of Bakhmut and the importance of the Patriot air defense system. Grin

Sure Wagner is an illegal group and Santa Claus is meeting Superman today for tea. Wagner is fighting in the front, receiving money and weaponry from the RF government and I do not see anyone taking to justice the wagnerites - in fact the RF has supplied convicts as soldiers (cannon fodder).

I cannot separate Wagner from Wagner and Wagner from Putin because they are one and the same, just cut the official bullshit seriously, you will be left will zero credibility if you have any left.

26000 have completed they contract and retired as fertiliser for the Ukrainian soil, dying as stupidly as all the rest of the young RF citizens sacrificed for nothing. From your point of view, I am sure that you consider the "experiment" very successful.