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Re: Self-moderated topics - nice feature or should it get banned?
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1miau
on 04/07/2023, 23:52:24 UTC
⭐ Merited by iwantmyhomepaidwithbtc2 (1) ,dkbit98 (1)
I would not appreciate anyone coming on my self-moderated thread and start giving me advice about spam and lolololo. If you do not like it stay away from a self-moderated thread. There is enough spam happening on every board and thread that are not self-moderated. If you want to control every spam happening on any thread then just apply for a mod job here.

To whom are you addressing here?
Maybe he's talking to himself.
New strategy of sigspamming?  Huh

1miau, you should ignore this sig-spammer, as all he does is trying to look smart now, after being caught by you that he did not even read your topic and hurried to post for reaching his signature quota.
Yes, at least he got rewarded handsomely for not reading my OP properly twice.  Cheesy
As a service I would be pretty worried to spend valuable BTC for such crap posts.
But probably any sort of attention is considered a win for the service...
It's like when someone trashes our mail account with spam constantly.
We don't know.  Wink



I find it mind-boggling to see how much signature spammers / shitposters don't understand how, in the long term, they're destroying their own business, and in the same time they don't understand that by taking the time to just read the answers and the full OP their lives would be much simpler ; because they wouldn't have to turn themselves into a cheap version of GPT to earn their BTC.
Probably, their expectation is hoping for other people to do the hard work (creating new interesting topics, tutorials quality posts etc. to keep the forum relevant in regards of clicks) similar to a school or university group project of maybe 4 people. You'll always have 1 or 2 people in your group expecting that the other 1 or 2 will do the most work.  Tongue
Maybe it's similar for our shitposters here.  Cheesy

At the same time, I don't know how hard it is to recruit good posters from a campaign management point of view, but I sometimes feel a bit desperate to see that some are hired, and paid, to write crap on the forum (even after being reported to their manager by influential users).
In my opinion, it would be in everyone's interest to pay the real, effective posters more, and not take on the less good ones in the campaigns. Admittedly, there would be a little less volume of messages for the campaigns, but the remaining messages would be less drowned in a mass of absurd messages because the shitposters wouldn't come any more.
I imagine I'm neither the first nor the last to ask myself this question, but if everyone applied "Quality over quantity" for real (talking about campaign recruitment), the forum might be rid of the worst of them.
Definitely a way to go.
The downsides for managers trying to research good quality posters and reject bad ones is one thing: it's taking much more time than just enrolling a bunch applicants from the topic. For example, some managers have started to remove participants when they haven't received much Merit after a long time in their current campaign. That's a very good thing but reserching this and removing them, accepting new participants etc. takes time for a campaign manager. It's easier to continue without doing any changes.
Unfortunately, the trend is currently looking more like that there are too many open spots and many shitposters are getting in.

Recently, icopress has started to apply a new strategy, where he gives out more rewards for members with high earned Merit scores:

Code:
Sr/Hero/Legendary: 0.0001 BTC/Post
Full member: 0.00007 BTC/post

0.00012 BTC/post if you have more than 1000 merit
0.00014 BTC/post if you have more than 2000 merit
0.00016 BTC/post if you have more than 4000 merit
It's a good idea in my opinion and not much work to apply.

Finally, I believe it's a mixture of the following things to improve posting quality:

- dedicated campaign managers to kick out spammers
- campaigns to create awareness about posting quality, example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5409763.0
- Merit sources only rewarding quality posts
- spammer blacklists and campaign managers considering them, example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5403475.0
- self-moderated topics in spam boards
...

Probably there's even more but it's a good start already.  Smiley