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Re: [ANN/INFO] CARDSMITHS - CURRENCY SERIES 1 TRADING CARDS
by
StorageCold
on 08/08/2023, 02:18:12 UTC
Doing some digging around on the PSA site.

https://www.psacard.com/auctionprices/non-sport-cards/2022-cardsmiths-currency-series-1/240381

This has a few of the diamond refractors listed as:

1 Bitcoin Diamond Gemstone Refractor-Proof
1A Bitcoin Diamond Gemstone Refractor-Proof
7 Nikola Tesla Diamond Gemstone Refractor-Proof
10 Bitcoin Diamond Gemstone Refractor-Proof
14 Ethereum Diamond Gemstone Refractor-Proof
28A Elon Musk Diamond Gemstone Refractor-Proof
41 Abraham Lincoln Diamond Gemstone Refractor-Proof
57 Salvatore Mundi Diamond Gemstone Refractor-Proof

Perhaps they pulled this information from ebay, as I know a few of these were listed on ebay at some point.


The page also lists most Onyx under the proper card number and name, e.g.

1 Bitcoin Onyx Gemstone Refractor 1/1


That feeds into theory that diamonds aren't legit.   And onyx has 1/1 on label

PSA came by the booth at the show.  We discussed the various types of cards with them and submitted some Diamond Proofs we had on hand as a way of jump starting the addition of Diamond Refractors to their database.  After the show we are going to work on getting them a full checklist of all supplemental cards that have been produced, including the 52 Diamond Refractor 1/1's.

You submitted Diamond Proofs as a way of jump starting the addition of Diamond refractors to their database.

I didn't think this meant that they graded the Diamond proofs and now include them in an the official Pop report for Series 1.
Doesn't this now make all the Diamond Proofs official cards to collect? This is just weird. What other card proofs are official graded by PSA?
It's bizarre.

I thought what submitting some Diamond proofs to PSA would do is that they can verify that the 1/1 Diamonds are official cards that they can now grade and include in the Series 1 Pop, not now include the proofs as official cards.

 Why wouldn't they be official cards? Because they didnt come in packs? I think all that matters is that they are 1/1. Anytime something is 1/1 it is very collectible. No matter how you want to label it the card exists and people are trying to collect it. On reddit they call it the 11 card rainbow or 10 card rainbow. I think the diamonds are officially part of the series.

PSA has been rejecting the 1/1 diamonds and/or mislabeling them as 1/1 Onyx cards. PSA was unaware of the existence or validity of the 1/1 Diamond refractors. Cardsmiths submitted a handful of the "Diamond Proofs" to PSA at the national. I believed the purpose of submitting the proofs to PSA was to prove that the 1/1 Diamonds are Series 1 Cards and can/should be graded and slabbed as 1/1 Diamond Refractors as part of the Currency Series 1 set.

When checking the official Pop report, PSA didn't just "check" the proofs to verify that 1/1 Diamonds are part of the Currency set and they can grade and label them that way. It appears as if PSA just graded the "proofs" and now include those in the official set list. There is still no verification that the 1/1 Diamond refractors will be accepted and graded by PSA.