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Board Wallet software
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Re: How long to crack 24 word phrase if you know all 24 words out of order?
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Kryptowerk
on 11/08/2023, 16:24:08 UTC
⭐ Merited by o_e_l_e_o (4) ,Pmalek (2) ,vapourminer (1)
That's 2,96^79 combinations, a number 79 digits long!
The number you are looking for there is 2.96*1079, rather than 2.9679.

That number is not quite right, however. It is the same number as 204824 or 2264. However, not all 24 word combinations are valid seed phrases due to the checksum. With the checksum being 8 bits long, it means only one out of every 256 seed phrases on average is valid. This means the total number of valid 24 word seed phrases is 2256, which is 1.16*1077.
Ah yes, rookie mistake, of course it's 2.96 x 10^79. Thanks for the correction!
Your explanation for why it's actually 2^256 is quite clear - however to brute force we would still need to go for the full 2^264 route since we cannot know if a phrase would result in a valid checksum, correct? Or are there any ways to determine in advance which combinations to avoid checking at all?