Fair enough.  I surely would not begrudge anyone for the employment of various self-improvement methods, including that sometimes they might or might not completely succeed.. but if you are finding progress then surely that would likely be a better place to be.

Another thing, I don't claim to be holier than thou or even holier than any other forum member, but sometimes if there are certain kinds of behaviors that I consider problematic then I may well choose to identify them as such (from my opinion/perspective) and make some kind of comment and/or analysis about such, rather than not saying anything..

It remains a discretionary matter, so in that regard, it seems that my earlier post largely speaks for itself.. and even with my writing of that post, I did go back through it again (about a couple of hours after I first posted it, and I made some clarification edits), since I realized that I was juggling together a lot of ideas, and some of those (meaning more than one) ideas might be controversial, perhaps?


Just because you posted about it, you should not impute knowledge upon anyone in the WO thread to have had read it, understood it, or even to have had remembered it... but I do recall you making a similar point to me when I was engaged in some previous "Bob bashing," if we might label what I was doing as such.


I doubt that I am purposefully attacking you in any way that is beyond what you deserve, yet surely I understand that opinions likely vary in regards to word-choice and/or tone that anyone might employ in their forum posts...  YMMV^{tm-toxic-moxic}

Another point that many of us frequently make, and should realize is that on the interwebs, none of us can really expect anyone to be nice, fair or even without malice towards us, and I doubt that any of my "attacks" on you are beyond anything that might be expected.. .. even though I really doubt that I am deliberately attempting to be purposefully mean to you or anything like that, but you likely realize that anyone has the rights and abilities to get in their little digs.. and it remains in your own boundaries regarding how to deal with those kinds of interactions with other forum members or even whether you choose to interact at all, whether the snipes/digs were warranted, purposeful, intentional or not, and I am not even saying that they were intentional beyond the extent that they were warranted to attempt to call a spade a spade.. and I am not even claiming that my various assertions are objectively more valid than the assertions of others, even though I suggested that the posts of both you and Nutildah was dumb, spiteful and perhaps even elitist, and I implied that either of you getting others to agree with the contents that you were spewing likely shows some some other members to be dummies, spiteful and elitist as well (which is my opinion, whether objectively true (provable) or not).. and I am not even necessarily saying that sometimes it might come in handy to engage in conduct that might be dumb, spiteful and/or that of an elitist.