Re: [WARNING] Whirlwind.money - withdrawals are not being processed ⚠️
⭐ Merited by mikeywith (8) ,1miau (4) ,LoyceV (4) ,DdmrDdmr (4) ,DireWolfM14 (1) ,famososMuertos (1) ,FatFork (1) ,suchmoon (1) ,n0nce (1)
@decodx: you should withdraw your Flag:
This is why:
The current Type 3 Flag claims this:
I can also confirm that I received the full amount of my deposit to WhirlWind.
I've removed my Support and Opposed your Flag. Anyone who Supported the Flag should consider doing the same.This is why:
Creating or supporting a scammer flag is actively affirming a set of pretty clear fact-statements. If someone knowingly supports a flag containing incorrect fact-statements, then that is crystal-clear abuse, and I will seek to have such people removed from DT ASAP. People who are habitually wrong, even not knowingly, should also be removed.
The current Type 3 Flag claims this:
decodx alleges: whirlwindmoney violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here. whirlwindmoney did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around August 2023. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.
As far as I can see, the bold part is no longer correct, which means the Flag should no longer be Supported.Hmm... I think this is an interesting precedent. Has there ever been situations like this?
Technically speaking, I think my Flag is still valid. Here's why:
I made a deposit of 0.004 BTC with the aim of coin mixing, and I expected the same amount of BTC (minus fees) as stated in the contract (Whirlwind official ANN and Whirlwind.money FAQ). On August 14, 2023, the value of 1 BTC was around $29,500. This makes the equivalent of my deposit about $117.50.
What eventually happened is that on August 18th and 20th, I received a total of 104 DAI from the escrow, which is equivalent to $104.00. So, as I see it, Whirlwind still violated a written contract, resulting in damages, specifically because:
- My BTC was exchanged for an altcoin without my consent and at a less favorable rate.
- My coins weren't mixed as expected using their service.
- My anonymity was compromised because I was forced to share private information with third parties.
- I had to put in extra effort and time (sending multiple inquiries to their customer support, PMs, making my case public, contacting the escrow custodian, gathering evidence, etc.) to claim my compensation rights.
Now, I did mention before that I received the full amount of my deposit (although technically not accurate), but that wasn't thanks to Whirlwind but rather due to individuals outside of my initial contract with Whirlwind. Specifically, minerjones and Hhampuz, who facilitated the release of escrow funds, and Ratimov, who converted DAI to BTC without a fee.
In any case, I agree to remove my Flag if you guys say it's the right thing to do. I just wanted to note that I personally believe the Flag is still valid. However, I'm not a lawyer, so I admit that my opinion isn't worth much!
