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i am at certainity that hiw the games of mines work. but can you proof read the difference between the first and the ssecond iteration also explain me why is it two iterations are so much having difference.
and also how come second iteration has 2 mines , in it . so how come so many tiles opened for bombs it clearly specifies over there.
also
https://onlinephp.io/ can you migrate the program here ans give us a link , so that i can verify if its working or not
Will try to explain this to you one more time like to 5 year old.
Let's assume i go to mines and wanted to play mine game with
3 minesAt the beggining i known HASHED SERVER SEED , MY SECRET AND NONCE
Lets say it's
HASHED SERVER SEED = 'e7f3006651ac9fa2252cb6db7de2cfa50e8fb9ff479fd16afd45e9f5fa52c24b';
MY SECRET = 'J8ziLyE0L5';
NONCE = 1;
I Started to open mines at position
1st Click "field" : 0,
2nd Click "field" : 6,
3rd Click "field": 12,
4th Click "field": 18,
5th Click "field": 24,
6th Click "field": 21,
7th Click "field": 17,
On the 7th Click i busted as mine was uncovered/clicked.
Now i want to verify if actually MINE WAS AT THAT POSITION at that game with NONCE 1.
So i have rotated the seed to get the output for SERVER SEED , stake output for that string in
SERVER SEED UNHASHED = '8935bff6600c9ebb504505757ca881131e5f4a2766e8b0debd687100be6e17c4';
Okay move on now to verify the outcome of the mines for that particular game
For that instance I've used the code which i wrote yesterday to verify the mine bet
Output of my code (link for you to verify
https://onlinephp.io/c/b9616 )
lets verify if my unhashedServerSeed is actually sha256 hashedServerSeed , Result: => bool(true)
Mines postions
Game Nonce:1
0 = 13
1 = 17
2 = 5
3 = 8
4 = 10
5 = 24
6 = 15
7 = 7
8 = 6
9 = 22
10 = 19
11 = 0
12 = 21
13 = 1
14 = 3
15 = 20
16 = 4
17 = 16
18 = 2
19 = 23
20 = 11
21 = 12
22 = 18
23 = 14
Okay so i know that i have played with
3 mines that particular game
It means in my game mines positions are
0 = 13 (1st mine position field)
1 = 17 (2nd mine position field)
2 = 5 (3rd mine position field)
Okay it clearly shows a mine at position field 17 which i uncovered and busted (as explained above)
NOW ASSUME BY SOME REASON STAKE PUT THAT BET TO THE ARCHIVE WITH THE REST OF THE FIELD WHICH I DID NOT OPENED/CLICKED
SO IN MY LOGS I SEE
"state": {
"mines": [
13,
17,
5
],
"minesCount": 3,
"rounds": [
{
"field": 0,
"payoutMultiplier": 1.125
},
{
"field": 6,
"payoutMultiplier": 1.2857142857142856
},
{
"field": 12,
"payoutMultiplier": 1.4785714285714282
},
{
"field": 18,
"payoutMultiplier": 1.7120300751879696
},
{
"field": 24,
"payoutMultiplier": 1.9973684210526312
},
{
"field": 21,
"payoutMultiplier": 2.3498452012383897
},
{
"field": 17,
"payoutMultiplier": 0
},
{
"field": 1,
"payoutMultiplier": 0
},
{
"field": 2,
"payoutMultiplier": 0
},
{
"field": 3,
"payoutMultiplier": 0
},
{
"field": 4,
"payoutMultiplier": 0
},
{
"field": 5,
"payoutMultiplier": 0
},
{
"field": 7,
"payoutMultiplier": 0
},
{
"field": 8,
"payoutMultiplier": 0
},
{
"field": 9,
"payoutMultiplier": 0
},
{
"field": 10,
"payoutMultiplier": 0
},
{
"field": 11,
"payoutMultiplier": 0
},
{
"field": 13,
"payoutMultiplier": 0
},
{
"field": 14,
"payoutMultiplier": 0
},
{
"field": 15,
"payoutMultiplier": 0
},
{
"field": 16,
"payoutMultiplier": 0
}
{
"field": 19,
"payoutMultiplier": 0
}
]
}
Does that log format affect anyhow the result of the game ?
NO IT DID NOT 1st .
1. Mines position -> IN THE LOG MINES ARE IN THE SAME ORDER AS IN MY CODE OUTPUT (AFTER VERIFICATION OF BET)
2. ORDER OF FIELDS OPENED IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS MY MANUALL CLICKS TILL I BUSTED ON FIELD 17
the EXTRA DATA FOR OPENED FIELDS DOEST NOT AFFECT ANYTHING AS AT THAT POINT I ALREADY LOST THAT GAME ( WHEN CLICKED MINE AT FIELD 17)
So it means even if for some reason the output for fields opened have some EXTRA additional fields which were not clicked, BUT the ORDER OF that which we clicked is OK, it means there is no any manipulation.
I don't know how STAKE store the logs for best, but if the ORDER OF THE FIELDS OPENED TILL BUST IS EQUAL TO ACTUALLY CLICKED FIELDS IN GAME AND MINES POSITIONS IS IN THE SAME ORDER
IT MEAN THE RESULT IS FAIR.
the one which stake has not archived the bet , its showing the correct mines.
you still did not understand the question. the problem is the iteration. the point 3 .
iteration 1 :
iteration 1:
{"id":"4199e11e-8861-4b8f-9b43-97ad560cd766","iid":"house:167247337064","type":"casino","scope":"house","userId":"c3299987-21b5-49ef-bb2b-92a8512912b1","betCasino":{"id":"4199e11e-8861-4b8f-9b43-97ad560cd766","active":false,"userId":"c3299987-21b5-49ef-bb2b-92a8512912b1","gameId":"f65ec3b7-705d-42e1-9050 d9ea6fd032b3","currency":"trx","value":0.0000165150794972,"expectedAmount":0.0000020809,"amount":0.00020809,"payoutMultiplier":0,"payout":0,"mobile":false,"serverSeedId":"c7ae0581-091f-4b85-ac5a-9e8e15c5f7b1","clientSeedId":"fc7c4338-e91f-4c13-9cdf-e4475593d7c9","nonce":544,"stateMines":{"_mines":[11,0],"rounds":[{"field":24,"payoutMultiplier":1.076086956521739},{"field":3,"payoutMultiplier":1.1739130434782608},{"field":10,"payoutMultiplier":1.2857142857142859},{"field":9,"payoutMultiplier":1.4142857142857147},{"field":11,"payoutMultiplier":0}],"minesCount":2},"updatedAt":1688820636227,"createdAt":1688820636227}}
for this betid the mines and reveal tile is correct. as soon as i clicked the bomb at 11 , the game is over and it’s archived in the system.[/u]
whereas for iteration 2 , which was registered in the system ..
id":"827819c9-5d9b-4579-a88c-befc0fa54e99","ip":"XXX.YYY.ZZZ.AAA","iid":"house:167250384449","type":"casino","nonce":602,"value":0.0000132,"active":false,"amount":0.0000132,"gameId":"f65ec3b7-705d-42e1-9050-d9ea6fd032b3","mobile":false,"payout":0,"userId":"c3299987-21b5-49ef-bb2b-92a8512912b1","currency":"usdc","gameName":"mines","createdAt":1688821605532,"updatedAt":1688821605532,"clientSeed":"O1zKuEp8081boobs","stateMines":{"_mines":[3,7],"rounds":[{"field":23,"payoutMultiplier":1.076086956521739},{"field":18,"payoutMultiplier":1.1739130434782608},{"field":13,"payoutMultiplier":1.2857142857142858},{"field":5,"payoutMultiplier":1.4142857142857146},{"field":6,"payoutMultiplier":1.5631578947368425},{"field":0,"payoutMultiplier":1.7368421052631584},{"field":1,"payoutMultiplier":1.941176470588236},{"field":2,"payoutMultiplier":2.1838235294117654},{"field":3,"payoutMultiplier":0},{"field":4,"payoutMultiplier":0},{"field":9,"payoutMultiplier":0},{"field":7,"payoutMultiplier":0},{"field":11,"payoutMultiplier":0},{"field":12,"payoutMultiplier":0},{"field":14,"payoutMultiplier":0},{"field":24,"payoutMultiplier":0},{"field":17,"payoutMultiplier":0},{"field":16,"payoutMultiplier":0},{"field":15,"payoutMultiplier":0},{"field":21,"payoutMultiplier":0},{"field":22,"payoutMultiplier":0},{"field":20,"payoutMultiplier":0}],"minesCount":2},"clientSeedId":"fc7c4338-e91f-4c13-9cdf-e4475593d7c9","serverSeedId":"c7ae0581-091f-4b85-ac5a-9e8e15c5f7b1","expectedAmount":1.3200000000000002e-7,"serverSeedHash":"aff867a8be94f30f5bd66c7bbf0fa7a85e1c10b187c22fddb93b5efe807cc4e7","payoutMultiplier":0},
mines for this bet id was 3, and 7 . as soon as i clicked on 3. the game should be over .
but its not the game shows that i clicked on tiles 4,9,7,1,12,14,24,17,16,15,21,22,20 and 2 . how is this possible . and its not a. autobet which has been placed.
this iteration shows
that apart from mines on tiles 3,7 the bombs were on rest of the tiles as well. [\b][\u]
stake controls the iteration , later on the bets are deleted citing as archive and the mines field array is filled. [\b][\u]
hence the bet is manipulated. [\b][\u]
when you play mines on 2 mines you will find bomb on the first click this is one of the reasons[\b][\u]
in this game i have got 7 first bomb for mines of 2. what are the chances for that. [\b][\u]
I think you missunderstood the concept of stake bet archive ...
That they provide for the customers some service like bet archiver where you can download and check out your bets it's actually nothing which can prove the bet was fair or not.
1. record of the tiles (ordered, per click id) which you opened till busted on mine ( after that game is over) or you won/payed out the game at current nonce.
2. fields where mines were placed on your bet (before unhashed server seed is unrevealed) - you can see it in graphic view of the bet, as well if you more advanced you can check that in your browser network tab as stake actually provide this infrmation on the response request when you bust/cashout/win the round.
3. amount of mines played in specific game (per nonce)
4. unhashed server seed , hashed server seed , client seed , and nonce.
And now you can verify the fairness of the specific BET NONCE.
As i already wrote, i don't know why that iteration was shown/stored in their Archive bet system, but once again as you have the all data which i listed above you don't even need to have such like bet archive provided by Stake to proof the fairness of the bet or bets.