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Re: Gaza and international law!!
by
mikeywith
on 18/10/2023, 23:16:22 UTC
Because it turned out that the rocket was fired by Hamas itself and it crashed near the hospital, like the OSINT (Open Source Intelligence) community has confirmed:

Since when did NYpost become  "Open Source Intelligence" ? where is your OSINT source?

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It would be nice to get some facts instead of unproven speculations that. Because it turned out that your claim aged like milk.  Cheesy

You used the New York Post as your "fact reference" which is funny, where is your source of all the info you posted above? if you are going to quote another Western legacy media then spare yourself the effort. Cheesy

in fact:

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In the hours after the attack, @Israel, the official Israeli account on X (formerly Twitter), posted a video it claimed was proof that the explosion was the result of a misguided rocket launched by Islamic Jihad militants. But within minutes, Aric Toler, a former Bellingcat researcher who now works for The New York Times, pointed out that the time stamp on the video showed 8 pm local time, a full hour after the explosion took place.

The post on Israel’s official account was subsequently edited to remove the video while maintaining its claim that the attack was not the result of an Israeli strike.

https://www.wired.com/story/al-ahli-baptist-hospital-explosion-disinformation-osint/


Kolina Koltai a senior researcher at open source intelligence (OSINT) Bellingcat said in response to the IDF putting that fake video and then deleting it:

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“When you see people in such a capacity putting out a claim, walking it back, putting out a video, deleting the video, it makes it tough, not just for us to do our job, but even for the public to find out what’s going on,”

She also mentioned in response to some Israeli fake news

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Head ups, there is a claim that the hospital bombing in Gaza was by Hamas. If you see the video below, it is actually from at least 2022.

So I ask again, where is your OSINT resource that confirms that the hospital was attacked by Hamas? if your source claims that it wasn't an airstrike conducted by a fighter jet, it doesn't change anything, your source needs to prove that Hamas was indeed the one who launched it, it's common since the attacker bares all responsibility unless proven otherwise.

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Stop getting brainwashed from Hamas propaganda and find out, what really happened, backed up by proof.  Smiley

Hamas is a political movement, I couldn't care less what they say or do, just like Netanyahu's government, they would use everything at their disposal to win, and that includes propaganda, it's perfectly normal to dislike or a hate a political party including this army and leader, but what you doing now is hating on all the civilians who have nothing to do with Hamas.

what I care about is the lives of the innocent Palestine people who have been suffering since the Zionist state took place back in 1948, the radical government and settlers have put the lives of both Palestinians and Israelis at stake, you keep mentioning Hamas as if they are superpower who control the whole area, you don't seem to know that they don't extend past Gaza, but despite them not having a foot in the West Bank, Israel did not stop the killing of the Palestinians in the west bank.

You seem to be pretty misinformed, about the religious aspect in the area, Israel is fighting both Muslims and Christians, it's part of the Zionist doctrine which you don't seem to understand, it's Zionist (God's chosen people according to them) vs everyone.

Are you aware that ALL human rights organizations state that Israel committed war crimes and has been brutal to the Palestinians for decades? and that includes ALL Israeli human rights organizations.

B'Tselem one of the largest human rights organizations based of Jerusalem mentioned this:

2,260 children were killed by the IDF and the settlers from 2000 to date, 519 of them were way too far from Gaza in the west bank where Hamas does not exist, 1,741 minors in Gaza were killed by the IDF vs 4 Israeli minors

You would find a lot of interesting reads there such as "Top Israeli officials criminally liable for knowingly ordering strike expected to harm civilians, including children, in the Gaza Strip"


All Israeli human rights organizations will tell you the same thing about the brutality of the IDF and the settlers, if you are not satisfied with Israeli resources you can turn to amnesty which also states


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Israel’s continuing oppressive and discriminatory system of governing Palestinians in Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT) constituted a system of apartheid, and Israeli officials committed the crime of apartheid under international law. Israeli forces launched a three-day offensive on the occupied Gaza Strip in August during which they committed apparent war crimes.

But no, this is all Hamas propaganda, they control the Israeli and international human rights originations to spread fake news.


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I'm a very tolerant person

Hard to tell to be honest. Cheesy

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that if you come to Germany

If you are annoyed by a certain group of people regardless of their religion or background, don't let them into your country, it's as simple as that to a superpower country like Germany, unfortunately, it wasn't the case for the weak Palestinians back in 1948 since no matter how hard they tried to stop the Zionist from taking their land -- they couldn't.  

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Yes, after Israel is wiped off the map, which is the goal by extremist organizations like Hamas or Israel etc., EU and USA will be next.

So why does this have to be in the order you mentioned, why can't it be EU, USA, and then Israel for example  Cheesy, I find it hard to believe that a country with 2% the GDP of the U.S, a small population of 10 million with little to no natural resources is standing in the way of the "extremist organizations" who plan to take down the EU and the USA, it's also worth mentioning that Israel as a state only come to existence roughly 70 years ago, so who was protecting the world from the "extremist organizations" back then? we know for sure it wasn't the Jews so who was it?  I am not trolling really, I just don't have what it takes to understand arguments with flawed logic.