Re: Investigation and action required. Unusual forum moderation.
I haven't seen a single report from Ratimov for a long time, and even more so about his own topics. I will even clarify: I have not seen a single report on topics edited by Ratimov.
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How could anyone have found out about this before? That there are many similar garbage topics in the Russian forum? After all, they are old and do not appear in the top of the Russian root. I didn't understand that.
Does look more fishy. The topics/posts were not reported but Xal0lex have managed to found 30 topics [we have no data how many posts] and deleted them! I too don't understand that and for sure many others will not.Quote
I would not like to put the second moderator in a difficult position, but I was honestly surprised by the answer of Xal0lex:
Unfortunately he is in a difficult position now.I haven't personally counted how many topics I've deleted. Maybe 10, maybe more. And plus at the moment there are a few more of Ratimov's garbage topics in the section, which will also be deleted in time. You can go to the section yourself and see how many of these topics there are at the moment. You can also go to modlog and do the math yourself.
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I sent the first type to the archive (probably this was not part of his plans), since I believe that other users should not lose messages because of these strange actions. And often you can understand the meaning there even without the first post
I made notes for myself to know that these topics are in the archive, just in case he moves them to the Russian forum again.
The second type of topics in which there is no sense at all, I sent to Trashcan.
I sincerely do not understand why Ratimov did all this, since many topics have been useful and relevant so far. To be honest, I was hoping that he would answer this question himself.
That's exactly what responsibility means. The other mod seems ignored and, deliberately avoided the point on the other topic in his responses. I made notes for myself to know that these topics are in the archive, just in case he moves them to the Russian forum again.
The second type of topics in which there is no sense at all, I sent to Trashcan.
I sincerely do not understand why Ratimov did all this, since many topics have been useful and relevant so far. To be honest, I was hoping that he would answer this question himself.
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A little later I checked the history of his topics (Ratimov) and really found a lot of edited topics in the Russian forum. They can be divided into two types:
1. Topics where he edited only his own messages, and the posts of other users remained untouched
2. Topics where everything is deleted, and the first post is edited.
Thank you again for giving a clear idea of how it was done. In the second type we assume these were self-moderated threads. The first type were regular topics, he deleted his own posts, emptied the main topic and then local mod [Xal0lex] cleaned it up.1. Topics where he edited only his own messages, and the posts of other users remained untouched
2. Topics where everything is deleted, and the first post is edited.
Xal0lex would you help us to understand how you found the topics/posts to clean up if they were not reported?
You're falling into conspiracy theories. If you followed a modlog you'd seen that there was no massive deleting of posts in those topics by mods. There was only massive deletion of emptied topics with nonsense subjects. You can check it even without archives because actual log is still containing that data. I'm not a mod in here, but I'm sure that cleaning from nonsense is a mods job. I didn't report any on these topics because I didn't see them before they are being deleted, but if I've seen them, I'd reported them. I do report such nonsense in other cases.
Making an own small research before blaming someone in something could be good.
Have you started your research from this topic from GazetaBitcoin? I will appreciate any input from anyone who have read that topic then read the 2nd topic from LoyceV.Making an own small research before blaming someone in something could be good.