I see that after doing more research, i really am just tossing as much out there as i can , and relying on the group to help us. It does prove they are US based, which means one could file a complaint with the FBI/SS etc. I was thinking of doing that, but thought it was best to try and get paid first, as much as i want them to suffer, id rather get my money, Im sure Bitcoinrulz feels same way..This feels like black friday all over again, my fault for not doing more diligence..