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Re: [Tutorial] How I run Sparrow 24/7 on GUI-less linux / infinite Whirlpool mixes
by
Kruw
on 14/11/2023, 13:54:42 UTC
And unfortunately, Whirlpool coinjoins reveal common input ownership and create toxic change that can be used to track your future transactions:
This is FUD. Address clusters and peeling chains are not unique to Whirlpool CoinJoins. The exact same thing can happen with Wasabi mixes (which you are obviously here to shill) without proper coin control practices. I followed all of the txs you mentioned and you're right. They are linked to each other via a peeling chain but that doesn't mean that the common ownership heuristic doesn't apply to Wasabi txs after they get mixed. Not using adequate coin control practices can absolutely result in txs being linked together but that has nothing to do with Whirlpool specifically.

I am not spreading FUD, address clusters from common input ownership and peeling chains from leftover change ARE unique to Whirlpool coinjoins. 

You are spreading FUD because common input ownership is not revealed and peeling chains are not produced (unless you are a whale with more coins than all the other participants) in Wasabi's coinjoins and there is no coin control necessary.  You can verify this yourself by simply looking at the Bitcoin blockchain:

Zoom out to see Wasabi's coinjoin of the week!  This behemoth transaction contains 23 BTC - https://mempool.space/tx/927a4d5f3e17faae611f623eaf06206b966b30ba1bacbec49d7ab35afa50dbca

Bitcoin is divisible. WabiSabi coinjoins make Bitcoin divisible privately.

Inputs: 370
Outputs: 340
Average input anonset: 4.2
Average output anonset: 10.63

Whirlpool does not provide this sort of complete privacy for your entire funds.  You always generate traceable leftovers:

https://mempool.space/address/bc1qp25y8kfywz88myuh7ed3dmx3vv2z2dwuxhjnlv

Value of output: 305 sats
Mining fee paid to create output: 369 sats
Mining fee paid to spend input: 1,776 sats
Net loss from dust bug: 1,840 sats
New transactions clustered: 5 txs

https://mempool.space/address/bc1q83sfgfefwupz8w3faawxjr5v8uf03ttjclrkda

Value of output: 933 sats
Mining fee paid to create output: 1,234 sats
Mining fee paid to spend input: 4,333 sats
Net loss from dust bug: 4,634 sats
New transactions clustered: 12 txs

Ouch, this non private toxic change output created by Whirlpool's tx0 was even larger than the 0.001 pool denomination itself: https://mempool.space/address/bc1qmgnthpjk4ecgmq4hlne6h79q7ykaf4w8n9jzkv

I think you're being a bit disingenuous with your response and are more interested in flexing on OP while you tout Wasabi in your signature and website link. 

No, I'm not being disingenuous, people following the guide will actually be deanonymized.  The worst possible outcome is that people get a false sense of securtity.