Quote from: PrivacyG on December 02, 2023, 10:42:06 PM

I think it is not as important for the safety of theymos to BAN Mixers straight away as it is to rather promote a strong statement against the use of criminal funds with existing Mixers. I imagine the Dutch Local Authorities would not be too happy to find out theymos has banned Mixers only to continue promoting Coin Joins but will instead be much happier if theymos made it clear every single time that Mixers are NOT to be used with illegal funds.

I don't see the point: criminals already know what they're doing is illegal. It sounds like a gun shop putting up a sign: "don't rob banks". Innocent people weren't going to do it, and the bad guys already know robbing banks is not allowed.

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I think of it like smoking ads. You are being told cigarettes can destroy your health. Now you know the risk and continuing to do so will only decline your health.

If warnings showing ugly lungs don't make people stop damaging their health, how would a warning not to break the law stop criminals from doing what they do?

Quote from: Timelord2067 on December 02, 2023, 11:55:57 PM

Does that mean you're now going to go back to that other thread

How about you stop making things up about me.

Quote from: philipma1957 on Today at 03:16:09 PM

my problem is with the accusations that 50% of the coins in sinbad were bad.

That makes it much worse than the average. And that makes me wonder:

Quote from: LoyceV on December 01, 2023, 09:23:25 AM

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on November 30, 2023, 08:35:14 PM

Why in the world would any mixer that wants to remain in business for the long term accept funds that are so tainted

What if it's the other way around, and that's the reason the mixer was created in the first place?

Quote from: JollyGood on December 01, 2023, 12:27:35 AM

I think there is a clear difference when a mixer is being used to mix for the average person conducting non-criminal acts for the sake of increasing privacy and an enterprise that has been created with laundered money to offer a mixing service

Even worse than that: the latter needs the former.

I used to think mixers are good sites that can be used for good and evil, just like a car can be used for good or to get away after robbing a bank. But given enough mixers, there is a possibility that at least some mixers are created by bad people, and in that case they need good people to hide their bad money.