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Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL!
by
JayJuanGee
on 07/12/2023, 18:34:13 UTC
Be careful, never sell bitcoins because someone is greedy for money because the price of bitcoins has increased. Learn to buy bitcoins, not sell them.
I don't think someone would want to sell their bitcoin at this time just because they are greedy for money when they are fully aware that the Bitcoin that they are holding can give them profits in the future.

Sure if you have long term investment ideas, then you would likely not be selling any of your bitcoin now, but I doubt that the reason would merely be because you expect profits to be guaranteed in the future, but instead that you had made your investment into bitcoin based on a long term investment thesis and you are not merely thinking about short term profits.

On the other hand, if you come into bitcoin and you do not have solid ideas for what might be your investment thesis, and you might not even know why you like bitcoin except for thinking that it could make you some money, then you likely would be more inclined to sell at various points along the way, and you might not really realize that you could sell in increments, but instead you think about either being in or out, and so it could look very attractive to get 40% to 60% profits in less than a couple of months.

Anyone that you see who sells their bitcoin now is doing it for financial reasons and not for greed. I can't have an urgent need of money and you expect me not to sell my bitcoin so that I won't appear greedy, whereby I know that I can buy bitcoin back at any time I have the money to.

It tends to be a better practice to already have your financial matters in order before you are investing into something like bitcoin, and it may well also apply to a lot of other investments, yet some times people do not plan their investments very well, so they could come across emergency financial circumstances, yet many times those supposed emergency financial circumstances are more likely due to poor financial planning rather than actual financial emergencies.

Another thing, if you sell, you may well be able to buy back in, but you may end up buying back in at a much worse level.  There are quite a few people who sold decently large chucks of their BTC at various points in their bitcoin investment journey and there is almost no way that they can get back to the level of BTC that they previously held... but sure, in terms of dollars, they still might be able to put in as much or even way more than they invested into BTC, but still not get close to the same quantity of BTC.

Even take a fairly basis example of someone who may had been accumulating BTC between 2016 and 2020, and maybe they had some higher priced purchases and some lower price purchases, but overall they had an income in which they could only afford a bit more than $100 BTC per week, so in four years, they were able to invest around $24k and they were able to accumulate around 3 BTC, and so their average cost per BTC is around $8k.  So even if they might have sold some of their BTC at various points in the last few years, and if they are now down to 2 BTC, but they still ONLY have an income in which they are able to buy $100 or maybe $200 BTC per week, they might need more than 10 or 20 years to be able to re-accumulate that 1 BTC that they sold.. depending on what BTC prices do from here forward.
2023 is a good time for Bitcoin holders. Since the beginning of November, the Bitcoin price has been slowly improving with only green candles. Currently the price of Bitcoin has reached $44K, so no one should stop holding Bitcoin DCA method because the portfolio has increased. The more bitcoins you hold for longer, the more you will benefit. When you invest in the Bitcoin DCA method at the beginning of 2023, you can see for yourself how much portfolio growth is achieved by investing in Bitcoin by looking at the averages then and now. Invest in Bitcoin at the right time and the future will definitely be bright.
Investing in Bitcoin is always a sound and sensible decision, given that the price of Bitcoin has increased significantly since November, now is not the best time to invest in Bitcoin.

You (Litzki1990) seem to be presuming that the BTC accumulator has accumulated "enough" bitcoin.

We have trusted Bitcoin for a long time and have been investing in Bitcoin with trust in Bitcoin for a long time. When Bitcoin had relatively bad times, invested in Bitcoin during those bad times and invested and held Bitcoin waiting for good times. My plan was that since I would be holding my bitcoins for a long time, a temporary drop in the price of bitcoins is not a big deal. I hired at a time when people weren't talking much about investing in Bitcoin and I've held my investment so far and will continue to do so. I have a plan to hold my investments for a long time and I want to execute that plan 100%. Since I was able to hold on to my investment during the bad times of the market, I think it will be easier for me to hold on to it in the coming days.  

It does feel good for any of us to feel that we have a cushion in our investment from our costs per BTC, so the higher we get above our costs per BTC, the more comfortable that we become, but it still can get to be quite frustrating to feel comfortable, even if we have a profit cushion, especially during periods of extensive BTC price dips.. or sometimes we can get frustrated if the BTC goes up.. like now and then it doubles, but then if it ends up getting stuck in a range for a while or even has a couple of 30% to 50% dips along the way, and even if we are still in profits, we still get frustrated from the dips (or the failure of the BTC price to go up).

If an investor has a little bit of courage, trust and the tendency to hold on to his investment, then he can definitely hold on to his investment for a long time even if he overcomes a hundred hurdles.

Can't argue with that.

Be careful, never sell bitcoins because someone is greedy for money because the price of bitcoins has increased. Learn to buy bitcoins, not sell them.
You can discuss the benefits an investor can get from holding on to their bitcoins, but if you warn someone, they'll think you're convincing them to sell the investment. We usually invest in Bitcoin with the possibility of getting good amount of profit and keep that investment for time but it is not sure that I will get hundred percent profit if I invest in Bitcoin and keep the investment for long time. So you can show great potential without giving 100% guarantee to someone, because if an investor invests, the risk of money will be taken by that investor.

You are starting to sound as if you are past your BTC accumulation phase Litzki1990, but I still have my doubts that you are that far along, based on your previous posts and your registration date.  Another thing is that there can be a period in which we are starting to feel as if we have enough BTC, but it does not hurt to continue to accumulate BTC, even if we might run into situations in which we cannot accumulate a lot of BTC, we still feel that we mostly have enough BTC in order to be prepared for upside to happen, but if such upside does not end up happening in the near future then we will either just continue to accumulate BTC at a regularly consistent pace, or we might even slow down in our BTC accumulation pace and still feel like we largely have enough BTC.

Buying Bitcoin with a lump sum will allow you to complete the quantity of Bitcoin you want on time, while DCA will delay your accumulation process, in the end, you will still accumulate the quantity of Bitcoin you want.

Part of the problem, is that you do not necessarily know if you will still be able to accumulate as much BTC under each of the strategies.  Sure you might end up investing the same amount of money, but you might not be able to accumulate the same amount of BTC, so frequently, each of us has to decide within the means that we have available, and sometimes we might not even have lump sum available to us, absent having to take out a loan or otherwise put our finances in stress in order to accomplish lump sum... but it still does not mean that lump sum is a bad idea even if carrying out lump sum might end up in certain kinds of tradeoffs, such as financial/psychological stress or even potentially not having as much cash available to buy on dips if dips were to occur after the date of the lump sum injection(s).

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The method use for any individual depends entirely on their cashflow, emotion, schedule and general preference. There is no single method of building Bitcoin portfolio that everyone must adopt. If you can remember, MicroStrategy does not employ the DCA method rather they just buy in bulk when they decide to. This does not mean they are doing it efficiently. On the contrary, there are those who prefer the DCA method, probably because they have a steady cashflow like salary. There is no point saying that these set of people will not make much profits because in implementing the method they chose, they already have a target.

I would and I have characterized MSTR's strategy as a form of DCA... because they buy regularly and aggressively with whatever cashflows that they are able to muster up and they pretty much buy at any price... Sure they might be employing a bit of lump sum buying and strategizing about dips, but their regular way of buying that is mostly based on their own cash available is largely a DCA kind of an approach, even if the amounts are larger and somewhat seemingly inconsistent in terms of the amount... but they are mostly consistent in terms of buying pretty steadily for the past nearly 3.5 years.  At some point, we might conjecture that they have enough BTC, but they seem a bit maniacal in terms of their ongoing desire to continue to buy BTC...and they even stated that they are going to continue to buy BTC even if it goes up in price.. which also seems like a DCA approach in terms of whatever they are doing.