@OP it's already three days since you opened this thread, so have you gamble on there and what's your experience with them? I see most of users are saying both of them can be trusted.
why alot of ppl have issues with KYC ? i dont have any issue with that
What people were saying about KYC because when you need to verify your account, usually it will takes time and you might find it as a problem since verification isn't automatically approved.
That is same concerns me also if he is truly interested in finding which and playing or just a random question to seek here, and seeing his post History that most are in Trading section
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1316271;sa=showPosts maybe he is not into gambling now as a risk factor is concern , or he just changed His mind to not spending that 10k in gambling instead turn into Trading.
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And about the two gambling sites? have been playing for years in FJ and have tried also Rollbit and never experience any issues but ? I am a small bettor so this does not concerns OP's question .