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Re: Farewell
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FinneysTrueVision
on 29/01/2024, 07:12:34 UTC
⭐ Merited by JayJuanGee (1)
I will not read through all these giant walls of text, most of it is rehashing things which have been discussed many times already, but I will comment on a few of the posts I did read. Oeleo might've had some extreme views on certain issues but I don't hold him responsible for the actions of those who were renting his signature space. I only ever saw him recommend custodial mixers when people were specifically willing to trust a custodian to mix their coins. He could've been more outspoken about the risks associated with them but it is not his responsibility to stop people from doing something stupid. That doesn't make him complicit or a partner in their actions. It's something I hate about this forum but most people try to stay on the good side of those throwing lots of money at them.

I am not in agreement with zkSNACKS decision to prohibit supposedly "tainted" coins from entering their coinjoins but as a private business they have the right to deny their service to whomever they choose. Clearly regulators are not big fans of privacy services, and from my perspective, there was a high enough probability that if they had not made this choice their lead developers would be in a jail cell sitting next to the Tornado Cash devs, ChipMixer operators, and countless other mixers who have passed through this forum. It should be up to the free market to decide if they are willing to accept this compromise. While there is justifiable criticism against Wasabi, I find that a lot of it is entirely hypocritical or outright dishonest. Address reuse is not ideal when it happens in Wasabi, but it also isn't ideal when it happens in Samourai, or when it happened in Chipmixer. For some reason only when it happens in Wasabi do people on this forum consider it bad. In those other cases it was completely ignored because nobody wants to agitate certain merit sources and campaign managers who can ruin their reputation or exclude them from campaigns. Wasabi is also not "spying on their users". WabiSabi coinjoins are designed in a way where the coordinator can't really gather any useful information from participants. Some of these scenarios where they could deanonymize users seem too complex and expensive to be viable without it being detected. Somehow these spying concerns are dismissed when it comes to Samourai having access to xpubs. Developers lying directly to people's face is also not a concern. Developers and community being toxic assholes, also not a concern for the Whirlpool enthusiasts who will criticize Wasabi for these exact things. I'm not really a partisan and have used Wasabi, Samourai and other privacy services but there is a lot of inconsistency and double standards that sometimes I will defend Wasabi when certain arguments seem to be made in bad faith.