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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]
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LTU_btc
on 05/02/2024, 21:22:41 UTC
Damn, so, much bullshit that it doesn't even fits into single post Smiley
The truth is that just like leaders in the west,very many have let their hatred for Russia born from sheer misinformation and propaganda cloud their common sense of reasoning and judgement,engaging in very dangerous and careless acts that are self hurting and destructive all in the bid to either harm Russia or kill a few Russians
Yeah, Russia is soft and fluffy, there is no reason in this world to hate them, it's all just propaganda.
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just like the very silly and destructive sanctions on Russia in which Europe basically shot itself in the head by refusing to buy cheap Russian gas which is the backbone of their economy thinking they were all powerful
Cheap Russian gas, is it really that cheap. But in general, gas was tool for Russia to blackmail Europe for many years, thanks to politicians like Merkel who made Europe fully depend on Russian gas.
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for the 1st time in history put themselves in a place where they can be considered as legit targets and supporters of yet another invasion into territories Russia considers it's own
So, now it's Ukraine making invasion into territory of Russia? Wondering, how many countries in the world consider that these territories belongs to Russia. I don't know, maybe Russia considers that Alaska is their land too because they used to control it.

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To put it into context,imagine if Russia trained and armed mexico or the cartels in mexico which is the united states standard modus operandi and engaged in a violent overthrow o the government there and then launched attacks to reclaim territories which are historically theirs say california, Texas killing tens of thousands of us citizens and killing and injuring tens of thousands of us servicemen what would the reaction be
Wouldn't the us visit upon them what was visited upon the Japanese and we're all here spinning our propaganda acting like the Russians are the big bad wolf and terrible for the world when we know clearly who the agents of death and conflict and destabilization of governments around the world are(America)
Wow, such whataboutism, but it doesn't even makes sense.

Wonderful and intriguing argument you put up there,the half of Europe you've mentioned were conquered by the Nazis and liberated by the soviets at huge costs of both man and machine,be mindful of the term liberated not fucked, the way you construct your argument not bringing to mind the question of why the soviets went there in the first place,if the Nazis didn't conquer all these parts of Germany why would the soviets March to all this countries,when have the soviets or Russians ever invaded other countries historically except in connection to when they were invade themselves like in the Napoleonic wars,the period after the Russian revolution when the us and Europe and Japan tried to invade Russia

In general, Soviets weren't better than Nazis at all, they were just another occupants. You want to say that things like deportations to Siberia or Holdomor in Ukraine isn't better than genocide of jews. ''when have the soviets or Russians ever invaded other countries historically'' - really? Like Soviet Union itself wasn't occupation which lasted for 50 years. And I guess that invasion to Georgia in 2008 and to Ukraine in 2014 and 2022 doesn't counts as invasion for you because you will find reason to justify it.

The push to put Ukraine into NATO and to station us NATO troops and missiles(nuclear) maybe in Ukraine yet Russia is the aggressor
I'm wondering why Russia don't have problems with Poland, Baltic States, Finland being NATO members, while Ukraine is already danger for Russia. And I'm wondering from where you took that part about deplying nuclear missiles in Ukraine. BTW, when Budapest Memorandum was signed in 1994 and Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons, following text was signed:
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1.Respect the signatory's independence and sovereignty in the existing borders (in accordance with the principles of the CSCE Final Act).
2. Refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of the signatories to the memorandum, and undertake that none of their weapons will ever be used against these countries, except in cases of self-defense or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.
3. Refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine, the Republic of Belarus and Kazakhstan of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind.
4. Seek immediate Security Council action to provide assistance to the signatory if they "should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used
~snip~
We see how Russia is following declaration that they signed...