Despite these challenges, do you think there are still opportunities during economic downturns?
Of course, there are, and optimistic people will usually always find opportunities even in difficult circumstances, for example during the pandemic where many businesses closed due to bankruptcy but there are also those that are actually growing rapidly, this is what I see around me which can turn its business into a shop online and getting fantastic sales, indeed the scope is not too big because it is not the result of research and so on, but at least it can prove that difficult circumstances are not always a barrier for us to be able to find opportunities in terms of business and so on.
Even though there is an economic crisis, of course there are still people who can take advantage of the situation by creating new innovations in the midst of the economic crisis. As you said, in the midst of a pandemic, there are some people who are forced to close their businesses because they don't have income that can keep them running their business. they and there are also some people who can see opportunities in the midst of a pandemic by building their businesses and being able to develop well in the midst of a pandemic.