we can also have someone who recently started investing in bitcoin, understand how to trade is could be making more profits while he's still having more coins in his portfolio for hold over the bull season aside the trading he's into.
There you go, I see you as someone that is in to or support trading thou am not against you for that is your choice but talking trading in that manner is totally deviating from the concepts of this thread, because there is no way you can classify investment on Bitcoin for long term and those that invest for short term profit maximization, there is a total difference between the two.
Talking about short term or trading means that you are exposing yourself to greater risk of losses and is more like gambling than investing because it creates that emotional unrest of monitoring the downward and upward trends of market condition by focusing on profits maximization within the shortest time frame, trading is very complex even to old experience traders let alone the newbies.
Just know that trading for short term profits is more like gambling than investin, and the topic of discussion is based upon long term investment alone and not it's combination with trading for short term profit maximization.