There are a lot of Altcoins the ones we know and the ones we don't know i have not really heard about this two you mentioned maybe I will check about it later on because that is the most important thing especially when comes to altcoins, adequate and thorough research is actually what is expected from so that you will not be scammed unknowningly,  it is better you get scammed on the project that you done a proper research on than the one you didn't because the feeling can very different and you will have yourself to be blame , I know is going to be one of this new projects but that doesn't give a guarantee of having a good potentials, every one should just be careful.