Why did all you guys order bitcoin miners in first place when you know it will arrive late and knc cant be trusted? Now your all crying over them mining and you not getting refunds??? Its your money you have to be careful with it guys take care my 2 cents 
I ordered a Knc Jupiter and was quite happy with it. It was about two weeks late. But made a positive ROI. Most people have gotten refunds without a hitch. Just some people have reported difficulties. I do not know why that is..