Fuck your bullshit about the payment needing to be public.  That is a bunch of nonsense that could stifle participation.

The ONLY thing that needs to be public is the acknowledgement of payment, and yeah sure, I don't mind oversharing a bit since I don't mind discussing bitcoin related matters, but guys do not need to be even close as open as I am tending to be...

I will grant you that if there were to become a dispute about whether or not the payment was received, then maybe perhaps at that point (as a last resort) there might be some benefits in making some aspects of the payment public, but the default should be privacy rather than publicity, especially when we are already dealing with situations in which some guys privacy might already be partially compromised through various interactions that we are doing in terms of sharing aspects of our relations with bitcoin.

So we can agree to disagree about what I believe to be your retarded ideas about potentially jeopardizing opsec and/or discouraging forum members from wanting to engage in bets if they believe they are going to be forced into potential breaking of OPsec and/or having to be public about their payment, especially if there may well be no reason to not be public, including if the recipient acknowledges receipt of the payment.

Regarding the specifics of this particular lightning payment, it went through almost immediately (once I figured out how get Phoenix to recognize the invoice that you sent), so the amount was 10,000 sats with a 44 sat fee which was 10,044 sats in total... which at the time of transaction was $6.19 with a $0.03 fee, for a total of $6.22...

In the last 7 hours (since I sent the payment), there was one block that had some transactions as low as 18 sats per vbyte.. so the lowest would have probably been around 19 sats per vbyte.. which would have been around 2679 sats for the transaction .. around 61x higher fees to send that particular transaction on chain, and I bet it is quite a bit more difficult to trace my lightning network payment rather than an online payment.. so maybe another reason to use something like lightning network when in a public forum like this.. (and another reason to not be fucking sharing your onchain transactions on forum like this unless you have been able to separate out wallets).  I have some addresses that I have been sharing with forum members, but I expect that they are not sharing my transaction information or trying to look into my background transactions, even though they may well be able to do so.. and surely after one or two hops, there can also be some plausible deniability, too..