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Re: How high is the probability of accusations vs. casinos in BitcoinTalk are true?
by
EarnOnVictor
on 25/07/2024, 08:58:48 UTC
I even thought it was something so special when I was reading your outburst not knowing it was about replying to newbie posts. Well, I can only tell you guys to cool down and if there is a post that is suspicious or of low quality, why not report such? Don't forget, what you are alleging is still merely suspicious, what if it's not real? If you are asking someone to post evidence and you can't also prove whether the person is genuine or not, what difference are you?

For me, any newbie may post their experience about casinos and they should not be crucified for it, neither are these people replying to it even if they can't offer direct help. So far the post is readable and constructive enough, it has its pass-mark, in my opinion. Also, those who are using new accounts to open threads may have their reasons and we should not always treat such less important. Some may only be readers of Bitcointalk and open a casino account through one of the signature links here. When there is a problem, they might believe Bitcointalk is a place where their voice can be heard, so they may open an account. Some may not necessarily know Bitcointalk beforehand but were just referred here to see if their issue can be solved. Are people not going to websites newly to register their complaints against businesses?

Yeah that makes sense. We shouldn't ignore newbie posts just because of their rank just like that.
Some people find this platform in the process of reviewing a casino and inorder to raise awareness as well.
I guess we need to be diligent enough while reading accusation posts as they deal with someone's reputation.
At the same time, I still believe we should ask them for sufficient evidence to back their accusation against the casino.

My experience of reading posts from newcomers complaining about improper actions on the part of the casino clearly shows that in 90% of cases the newcomer accusing the casino is wrong.  Simply because he did not understand the rules enough, did not read the ToS carefully and thought that his game actions should have a result that was not the same as it turned out.  And such a user usually writes accusations against the casino also in a state of indignation and under the influence of his extremely strong dissatisfaction, usually due to the loss of his money in a particular casino.  Moreover, usually such indignant authors of posts simply do not have any real evidence of their rightness in the dispute with the casino.  
But in a number of cases, the casino is still wrong, but such cases still happen relatively few.
That could only mean we've not been reading the same accusations often because, in my experience, the reverse is the case. As you called 90% of wrong accusations are due to the wrong understanding of the casino's Ts&Cs, I call it 10% if I will be fair, and that 10% are often refuted and the OP is guided by the forum users, as no one will come out to support what the OP is guilty of.

But in my experience, the 90% are always real allegations that have nothing to do with the understanding of the Ts&Cs of the casinos. What I won't do is take sides but always want both parties to have a fair hearing so that a reasonable conclusion can be made. This is also applicable to those who can't prove their claims, when the casino has blocked the account, I wonder how much prove that such a person can furnish. That shouldn't mean they are lying, believing that will equally be an assumption.
On the other hand, if we are talking about casinos that are initially perceived by players as reliable and proven over the years in the market, then the accusations against such casinos are usually not sufficiently substantiated.  I talked about user reviews accusing well-known and large casinos of somehow deceiving the player who is complaining. 
Accusations against fraudulent casinos may of course be fair, this is obvious.  And in this case, the 10/90% ratio will certainly not be fair.  But let’s also take into account that in negative reviews and accusations from users there is often an intent to create a negative image of a particular casino.  And from the practice of such individual opinions, even if they are custom-made, it is clear that this is a fairly strong advertising message. 
Naturally, competitors use such methods of anti-advertising.  And such pre-prepared and paid for, one might say, custom-made versions of accusations against the casino should also be taken into account.
I see, I just understood what you are saying, it seems there was a misunderstanding between the direct accusation of cheating/fraud by individuals and that of a normal review of a casino. However, I've been so particular about reviews and I do not take individual reviews for granted, but the exception is that I read them insightfully and make sure that I average the general claims. For example, if I read 100 reviews, I might welcome just 60 of them as some might have ingenuine underdone, which means that my judgement about that casino will be based on 60% (whether positive or negetive) regardless of how they paint the casino.

I do this because there are also bad actors that are paid by a rival company or just wanted to cause issues due to their ugliness, and because there are casinos that will pay people to spread goodness about them. Irrespective of that, if it's a direct allegation on any casino, I will always be netrual at first with the both party and will never believe a casinos can't do it like many would assume just because they are reputed. I am only open to contructive defence by them.