Hey folks, I've been observing what's going on here for months. Now I've reached the point where I want to speak up. What I see, as an outsider:
Wasabi Wallet has become more open and transparent than ever before, driven by necessity! Am I wrong? The coordinator fee has been abolished, and anyone can become a coordinator. "Let a hundred flowers bloom." The mixers have fallen in the struggle. Every reputable mixer. Sparrow has removed Whirlpool. Trezor has discontinued CoinJoin based on the Wasabi coordinator.
What has happened in recent years? Wasabi tried to find some delicate balance between the authorities and privacy. Why? So that their service could operate smoothly. It seemed like a reasonable deal: making a minimal gesture to the authorities in exchange for a greater "public good." Excluding marked coins from CoinJoin never meant they were blocked. You could still mix them with another coordinator. It just wasn't advertised. Wasabi obviously wanted to profit. That lasted until now. The unfortunate case with Samourai has shown that this is not possible!
What if none of the people here are scammers? Neither the mixers supporters nor the members of the Wasabi team. Those participating in the signature campaigns couldn’t have known that one day all mixer services, even the oldest ChipMixer, would shut down. Wasabi couldn’t have known that its own approach was a dead end. But at least they tried. And NOW they’ve switched to a nonprofit mode.
Due to the full-court press by authorities against mixers, we are in a new era. Currently, with Wasabi and a freely chosen (free) coordinator, it’s the ONLY way for an average user who wants to use CoinJoin to ensure privacy. Everyone else is out of the game. Or am I wrong? Suggest alternatives if I’m missing something. (I know about XMR, but right now I’m talking about BTC.)
Why is there this pettiness? You, the "old-timers" here, labeled Kruw a scammer for months, accusing him of collaborating with the government. Then, when the mixer services collapsed, suddenly he was in an advantageous position, and now he's calling you scammers. I emphasize: what if no one is at fault? Why can't we draw a line and look to the future?
Questions for Wasabi: what exactly was this security incident on July 10th? What's going on? A warning was posted on X, then a more detailed explanation on GitHub, but nothing since. "We have been informed that a coordinator named WasabiCoordinator is trying to slowly siphon funds from its users using a sophisticated attack" - you wrote. This sounds pretty bad. Is there any information on how much money the scammer managed to siphon off? Can it be stated that this won't happen again? Was this a flaw in the wallet client, or is there a bug in the protocol? A simple user would be curious about these things. Thank you.
And for God's sake, guys, some calmness, please. I'd like to believe we're all in the same boat. And apologies for the tl;dr.
Wasabi Wallet has become more open and transparent than ever before, driven by necessity! Am I wrong? The coordinator fee has been abolished, and anyone can become a coordinator. "Let a hundred flowers bloom." The mixers have fallen in the struggle. Every reputable mixer. Sparrow has removed Whirlpool. Trezor has discontinued CoinJoin based on the Wasabi coordinator.
What has happened in recent years? Wasabi tried to find some delicate balance between the authorities and privacy. Why? So that their service could operate smoothly. It seemed like a reasonable deal: making a minimal gesture to the authorities in exchange for a greater "public good." Excluding marked coins from CoinJoin never meant they were blocked. You could still mix them with another coordinator. It just wasn't advertised. Wasabi obviously wanted to profit. That lasted until now. The unfortunate case with Samourai has shown that this is not possible!
What if none of the people here are scammers? Neither the mixers supporters nor the members of the Wasabi team. Those participating in the signature campaigns couldn’t have known that one day all mixer services, even the oldest ChipMixer, would shut down. Wasabi couldn’t have known that its own approach was a dead end. But at least they tried. And NOW they’ve switched to a nonprofit mode.
Due to the full-court press by authorities against mixers, we are in a new era. Currently, with Wasabi and a freely chosen (free) coordinator, it’s the ONLY way for an average user who wants to use CoinJoin to ensure privacy. Everyone else is out of the game. Or am I wrong? Suggest alternatives if I’m missing something. (I know about XMR, but right now I’m talking about BTC.)
Why is there this pettiness? You, the "old-timers" here, labeled Kruw a scammer for months, accusing him of collaborating with the government. Then, when the mixer services collapsed, suddenly he was in an advantageous position, and now he's calling you scammers. I emphasize: what if no one is at fault? Why can't we draw a line and look to the future?
Questions for Wasabi: what exactly was this security incident on July 10th? What's going on? A warning was posted on X, then a more detailed explanation on GitHub, but nothing since. "We have been informed that a coordinator named WasabiCoordinator is trying to slowly siphon funds from its users using a sophisticated attack" - you wrote. This sounds pretty bad. Is there any information on how much money the scammer managed to siphon off? Can it be stated that this won't happen again? Was this a flaw in the wallet client, or is there a bug in the protocol? A simple user would be curious about these things. Thank you.
And for God's sake, guys, some calmness, please. I'd like to believe we're all in the same boat. And apologies for the tl;dr.