there is an implosion of debt and cost of debt; for the national debt only

https://nitter.poast.org/WatcherGuru/status/1834293249064026487#m

US government announces it has spent over $1 trillion this year on interest payments for its $35.3 trillion national debt.

it was 16 Trillions in september 2012, and 20 Trillions at the end of obama in january 2017

but strange thing: this does not deserve any small remark in the debate, from both candidates..