At a lot of us who know the difference between verifiable source and open source really don't care. You want open go for open, you only care that it's verifiable / reproducible that's fine too.

We will have world peace before we get people to agree on things like that.

Some people think it's a big deal, others do not.

To me if you DEMAND open source then do it yourself.

If I create something and I want to get sell it and don't want others using it that is my decision as the person who created it. Just as it's your decision not to use it if you want something different.

But when people start saying (as some have not saying you or anyone in this thread in general just that it has been said) that it's not as secure that's total BS.

-Dave