Re: [BET] Trump or Harris 2024, Poker Player vs suchmoon
Border apprehensions include those that have been turned back for example.
Yes of course, but if they go up a lot it is usually a clear indication that those who enter without being caught also go up a lot.
I'm looking at the number of illegal immigrants living in the US. It's a decreasing number and ridiculously low to begin with, considering how much noise is being made about it. Around 11 million, or about 3.4% of population in 2022, down from a peak of 12m/4% in 2006-ish. There was an increase from 10.5 million in recent years but it remains to be seen if that's a long term trend.
here and there.
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You mean the following, don't you?
As far as I know here we are talking about Kamala vs Trump, and what you see in that and other charts that only go to 2022 is a change in trend. According to you we will have to see if this is a long term trend but I am quite clear that this trend will continue upwards until 2024. It is not much over the total? That's where I don't comment.
Most of those people are not swimming across Rio Grande. They come with a tourist visa or some other valid paperwork and stay after it expires.
So, you are surprised that those who cause alarm are those who cross the Rio Grande, according to you because of racism... To begin with, those who have entered with a visa have already passed some formalities and we know that they are mostly students or skilled workers, of the others we know nothing.
Don't be surprised if I don't put much effort in discussing these points from now on because it is tiring to argue when you know that it is very difficult to reach points of agreement. Normally in these debates, instead of looking for points of agreement, what people do is to look for arguments to reinforce their position, and it can end up in endless discussions.