I am saying that you invest or trade and even engage in a variety of optional expenses through the use of your discretionary income, and some people choose to invest and others choose to buy experiences.. such as buying an ice cream cone that you don't necessary need to live but if you buy it and eat it, you are not getting that money back, ever.  When you invest,  you may or may not get the money back, and yeah, you should be investing with the idea that the odds of you getting money back in the future are greater than losing it.. or that the value of investing one ice cream cone today will be worth more ice cream cones in the future... but you are not guaranteed.. .so you are willing to put money in that you might never see again, since you could have had bought an icec ream cone today with it, but you decided to take your chances, and hopefully your odds are good, even though they are not guaranteed... and yeah you are likely better to put your money into bitcoin rather than shitcoins and maybe even better than any other investment that is available, but even if you pick the best investment available, such as bitcoin, the return is not guaranteed, including you might get nothing back, or you might get half an ice cream cone in the future or you might get the value of 1,000 ice cream cones.. you cannot really know even wile you are trying to be selective about how you invest and what you invest into..  You think that bitcoin is guaranteed to be profitable, merely because you are choosing a longer timeline, such as greater than 10 years?  I think you are wrong in regards to having a mindset of guaranteed price returns, but you can believe whatever you like. and live in a fantasy.. that is your choice... or maybe you are just framing the matter with too much imprecision, even though it still boils down to you having wrong ideas about bitcoin being guaranteed.. When it comes to the future, almost nothing is guaranteed in life except death, perhaps..


Well, you seem to be thinking wrong about the whole matter.  The mere fact that you can lose money with an investment does not either turn the investment into a shitcoin or to cause all investments to be equal.

There are all kinds of investments and some are better than others, but that still does not mean that any of them are guaranteed, even if some have way better fundamentals..

Also, even in the ballpark of shitcoins, some of them are shittier than others... but who cares, we do not need to talk about which shitcoins are less shitty, even though they are not all equal and even though many of us may well have decided not to invest any time, money or energy into shitcoins.

There are nuances in life.  Everything is not black and white, and also the strength of investment theses change and even individual circumstances change, even though some aspects of a person's individual circumstances might be stable for a period of time, individual circumstances are also a moving target.

You know that strength of bitcoin's investment thesis as compared with other possible places to put your money is also only one factor to consider out of the nine factors, and at the same time, it is not locked into one assessment that is locked in forever, even if it might be a pretty stable factor.


Well you better be careful if you believe that there are guarantees in any of your investments, whether bitcoin or otherwise... and it seems way better to be using money that you can afford to lose, and if you are not confident enough in your investment, then you better figure out your investment size just in case you are putting too much confidence in your belief that bitcoin is guaranteed.


We can agree to disagree.  With the inheritance can you choose how you are going to spend it? or are there specific restrictions?  Perhaps there is an expectation that you are responsible with the inheritance money and that you try to grow it or you at least try to maintain it... so if you screw up, then who is to blame?  You going to blame bitcoin?  You are the one with the choice about where to put it and how much to put into which places.

If you are investing with other people's money then you likely need to be even more careful and perhaps get consent from them... but sure, sometimes people are going to trust the judgement of someone else to invest for them, and if you are one of those people then you have a lot of responsibility to be a good fiduciary.


It seems to me that you are probably wrong.. but whatever, we can agree to disagree and you can go on and believe that your bitcoin investment is guaranteed.  That is your choice how you want to frame your perspective, yet if you come into threads and you suggest that a different mindset is needed, then you are likely misleading people with faulty framing, even though you seem to want to frame matters that way for yourself.

Let me put it this way, within your discretionary income you have a choice about how to spend the money, yet you still might choose not to put all of your discretionary income into bitcoin, and you might choose how much you are going to put into bitcoin and how much you want to use to buy some ice cream or any other things that you might want to buy currently, invest into or even trade shitcoins with some or all of it.  When you choose to put some or all of your discretionary income into bitcoin you are not guaranteed to get it back, even though you surely have better odds of getting some of it back as compared with that ice cream that you just ate.. so the part you put into the ice cream, you know that you are never getting that back, and when you invest or trade there are various probabilities that you could get it back or you might not.. and some of the choices are better than others. but you are putting yourself into a pretty vulnerable (and maybe with overly high expectations) if you are using money that you cannot afford to lose in the event that your investment does not go well...and yeah, probably you want to invest into bitcoin and take a lot of precautions to guard your investment to make sure that you are not at fault to lose the keys... so there can be a lot of considerations in regards to what to invest into and what kinds of safeguards to take when you are making investments.. and even some people believe that with shitcoins they are going to make more money than they lose, too... and some people have a lot of sophisticated practices around trading and/or gambling and think that they are spending their money in a way that is likely to bring them good returns.. and some people are delusional in various ways about the various scenarios in regards to how they choose to use various parts of their discretionary income.