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Re: 1GH/s, 20w, $700 (was $500) — ButterflyLabs 3rd party testing for Dummies
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freequant
on 11/12/2011, 05:14:58 UTC
Secondly, the building we have been in is my office building, not the data center, thus why there is wifi available.  Also why I know what the wifi available in that building is and what it congestion rate is.  At no time have we (BFL and I) been to the data center and I don't believe I have stated we have done any testing inside the data center at this point.

Both the test of 25th Nov and 30th Nov were meant to take place in your datacenter according to yourself or BFL.
Let me put things back in context.

It's about noon on the 25th here in KC.
I plan on meeting them in about 6 hours from now (or midnight UTC).  After that, we'll decide if we have enough time to do the live test or if we'll just do the hardware portion.

Without question, the context here is the first meeting with BFL planned on 25th at 18:00 CST.
You are planning to do the live test if enough time.

I have no outside individuals coming, but if anyone is local that wants to come along, I can probably accommodate 1 or two additional people.  BFL said they might have one or two additional people... I need to keep it small as my DC probably doesn't want a ton of people marching into one of the server rooms.

In the next post, you mention that the test will take place in your data center.
There is no ambiguity of context : this is the next post, right after previous one where you were speeking about the meeting with BFL.
You even invited people to join, so assuming some people had joined, they would have been waiting in front of your datacenter.

At this point :
- you mentionned you would try to do the live test
- you mentionned it will take place in the data center.

So everyone who followed so far would naturally expect :
- that you will bring your laptop
- that the test will indeed take place in the data center

Hard to take pictures in a server room? Let me guess, poor pictures that barely show the heat sink that we all know well? Nothing of the chips? I'm just being irritating.
Luckily, the next day someon mentions about the data center.

No, we were not in the DC tonight.  And no, the pictures are fairly comprehensive as far as that goes.
And you clarify : the test did not take place in the data center after all (based on the photo, it looks like a restaurant, or someone's home).
So on 25 Nov, you wanted to do the live test in the data center with your laptop, but none of that happened.
You mentionned that the live test was postponed, but you didn't mention about the computer and the location until people ask more explicitely.
What happened? Who changed the plan and why? Why not be more clear about the change of place and the circumstances?

So anyway, that was the first test, and the first confusion.

Now let's look the announcement of the second "pre-release" test.

As Inaba mentioned, we'll be bringing a live running unit to his data center tomorrow for a quick look and performance demonstration.  Since we're not at our final figures, he's agreed to simply confirm or deny if the unit is generally within the performance class expected.  I think rather than fuzzy numbers, everyone just wants to know if this unicorn is real.  Fair enough...  we expect to clarify that once and for all tomorrow afternoon.. We'll follow up with a more formal demo once we're finished.

Here, it is the BFL official annoucement for the test of 30th Nov.
By BFL's own words, it is unambiguously stated that the test will take place in the data center.
By BFL's own words, it is a pre-release (so almost final) test with a live unit, so that should clearly qualify as the previously mentionned "live test".
By BLF's own words, it is going to establish the proof that the their product is real, so we are talking about a test with a formal experimental protocol here.

Following BFL's announcement, you did not make any comment to retarget before or after the test.

So everyone who followed so far would naturally expect :
- that you will bring your laptop
- that you will apply the experimental protocol we agreed one.
- that this was the so-called "live test" you were talking about all along.
- that the test will indeed take place in the data center

Now, you just clarified : this was not in the data center (in spice of BFL's announcement)
You clarified a few days ago that you in fact did not use your laptop, that the network was in fact not really segregated, and that this was in fact not the live test after all.

So on 30 Nov, as on 25 Nov before that, you wanted to do the live test in the data center with your laptop but, again, none of that happened.
Same pattern as last time, you mentionned vaguely that you would do more testing (but not that this wasn't the live test), and omitted to mention about the computer and the location until people ask more explicitely.
What happened again? Who changed again the plan and why? Again why not be more clear about the change of place and the circumstances?