You are convoluting a lot of terms which causes your recommendation to be quite confusing and even we might have no where to go if we cannot figure out how describe things with a bit more clarity.

There are ways of being aggressive in your bitcoin accumulation without being overly aggressive, so if a person is taking too many risks and not establishing back up funds and back up systems in order to make sure that he is not engaging in too much risk, that is not a problem of merely being aggressive but is a product of being overly aggressive and perhaps somewhat blind. 

Many of us, including yours truly, recommend that guys should attempt to be as aggressive as they can in regards to their accumulation of bitcoin without over doing it, yet getting off zero is another important consideration, since even a person with a relatively modest and even whimpy bitcoin approach is still likely going to be in a better  position merely by getting into bitcoin and establishing a bitcoin plan, even if he might have chosen to be a bit whimpy in his accumulation of bitcoin.

You also seem to not understand the meaning of getting to fuck you status.  Are you doing it on purpose?  who knows, since it seems that you are purposefully throwing out terms and then describing the terms in weird-ass ways that are not really consistent with the ways in which many of us have been discussing the terms in this thread and other related threads in the forum.   Sure every once in a while we need to clarify terms, and anyone using terms that are used might either need to make sure he understands the terms or perhaps ask about the terms if he might not be sure about whether he understands the terms.

Generally speaking fuck you status is a place that many people want to arrive, which largely entry-level fuck you status would be a place in which we no longer need to work and we can be sustained by our investment.. So we have a choice whether to work or not, and if we can manage our investment, then perhaps perpetually we would be able to live off of the investment or maybe at least as long as we are going to be alive, so for example, some folks might get to a place in which financially they don't  need to work any more and their investment level is able to sustain their standard of living, and surely if our timeline for how long that we are going to live is not clear, then we would want our investment level to largely be high enough that we would ONLY be drawing upon the interest (or yield or growth) of the investment rather than dipping into the principle of the investment. 

If we know our timeline, such as we anticipate 5 or 10 years, then we might choose to draw down our principle too during that time, yet part of the problem is not really knowing our timeline, and no one really wants to outlive their investment, so there can be some difficulties figuring out how to time our investment amount and our no longer needing it, and there are some folks who philosophize about dying with zero. .which also seems lie a risky proposition. .since it could lead to a state of outliving our investments...


You are not completely wrong SuperBitMan, even though you have some weird ways of saying things, which is that you are continuing to demonize the idea of being aggressive.

Yeah sure you are correct that those who have better back up funds and emergency funds are in a position to be more aggressive than those who don't have any of those kinds of funds,  yet the term aggressive is still somewhat relative, since there are a variety of ways that any of us can be aggressive which is that we might push limits even in regards to how we set up our emergency fund and invest into bitcoin at the same time which might be a bit aggressive or even overly aggressive, yet we might figure out some of those kinds of balances that are likely going to be necessary in our earliest years of building wealth and building up our various kinds of stashes.. including that there are a lot of people who likely have a lot of flexibility in both their income and in their expenses, so balances need to be figured out that might not always be clear but might also seem to require some level of aggressiveness (and proactiveness) in regards to how money is allocated while emergency/back up funds are built up and also BTC is built up and there also may well be a lot of time needed to spend learning while having to work to earn income and other kinds of struggles that seem to come more during the earliest years of building up our cashflow management and investing into bitcoin... so yeah, we don't want to end up overdoing any of the matters and invest $100 per week into bitcoin, but then find out that our income is not enough to cover our expenses and then we may or may not have a large enough emergency fund, and we really should not even be putting ourselves into any kind of a position that we need to touch our emergency fund, so yeah levels of aggressiveness versus whimpiness versus conservative versus proactive are on a bit of sliding scales and we have to figure out our balances to make sure we don't go overboard, but we can still choose whether to error on the side of whimpiness or aggressiveness and figure out if we might get ourselves into trouble in one direction or another if we might end up overly doing it in one direction or another.

You have been a forum member for less than 4 months, so it seems weird if you are overly aggressive in terms of describing general practices that need to be followed and maybe you should be describing those practices in terms of your own application of them so that we can figure out from where you are coming, since surely any of us can talk about these broad theories and what to do or not to do, but if we are not talking in terms of examples, then it may well end up being the case that we are not really relating how theory gets put into practice, including that it is probably better to also talk from your own experience if you are merely just buying bitcoin for the last 4 months or maybe you have been buying bitcoin longer than that and maybe you have other investment experiences too.. but if you are fairly early in your investment experience, then  sure it is relevant that you will be grappling with how aggressive that you are able to be in your bitcoin investment and having ongoing considerations about whether your emergency funds are big enough in light of your own particular financial and/or psychological circumstances.


Above you are describing buying the dip.  Lump sum is a different thing.  Lump sum refers to getting an income and buying right away.  If you choose to wait and buy the dip, you are no longer referring to lump sum, even though sure you buy with a lump sum , but you are buying the dip which is a different dynamic.

Buying the dip involves waiting for a dip, and lump sum involves buying right away when the money comes available.


With your two examples, being aggressive or being whimpy in regards to buying bitcoin has to do with how much of the discretionary income is used for buying bitcoin and we might not even agree with what percentage of the discretionary income used for BTC might cross over into aggressiveness.  So let's say with your two examples, that the person already has his emergency fund in place, so in the first example he has $600 available per week in his discretionary funds that he could use for buying bitcoin.  Probably many of us would consider anywhere between 70% and 100% invested into bitcoin ($420 to $600) would be somewhat aggressive and perhaps we would consider less than 20% (less than $120) to be whimpy, and perhaps anything between $120 and $420 to be modest.

I doubt that the definitions really change too much merely if our amount is $1,600 rather than $600, we still might consider levels of whimpiness versus aggressiveness largely based on percentages rather than absolute amounts, yet surely I can also see how absolute amounts could affect our considerations about whether the guy is being whimpy or aggressive, yet we don't really cross into overly aggressive territories until either the guy is high into the aggressive or even spending more than his discretionary income and perhaps the problem of overaggressiveness is made worse because he had not calculated his income and/or his expenses accurately or reasonably.


Why the fuck does the amount matter?

You have $30 discretionary income, so yeah, you don't have much to work with and maybe you should not be investing into bitcoin at all since you don't have much to work with, but still a guy can still decide to invest some amount into bitcoin, including up to the whole amount of the discretionary income, yet the only problem is that he has no margin to work with, so surely he would need to have an emergency fund or to be building his emergency fund simultaneously... and in this case an emergency fund would be somewhere in the ballpark of at least $900 to $1,300, which presumptively would cover expenses/income for 3 months.. ..so yeah, if a person does not have an adequate emergency fund then he would have to simultaneously build the emergency fund while investing into bitcoin (if he chooses to invest in bitcoin), and if the emergency fund is already in place then he could invest all of his discretionary income into bitcoin so long as he accurately calculated the amount...and investing all would be aggressive but not overly aggressive..but yeah people might disagree upon what thresholds are overlywhimpy, whimpy, moderate, aggressive or overly aggressive..  we use these kinds of terms to get bearings on the ideas but we do not need to agree exactly when the thresholds cross from one status to another since those are individual choices to figure out levels that are comfortable for the guy's personal financial and psychological situation.


We do not have to have strong income or strong back up funds to invest into bitcoin, yet the stronger our income and back up funds the more aggressive we are able to be in our bitcoin investment.

There are a lot of people who have unreliable income and inconsistent expenses, and surely those kinds of people likely need more back up funds and emergency funds in order to not put themselves into a state of panic, but they are not excluded from being able to invest in bitcoin, but they likely have to establish their own cushions so that they never have to sell bitcoin at a time that is not of their own choosing and so that they are investing into bitcoin for 4-10 years or longer rather than trying to trade it.. since bitcoin investment should be coming from discretionary income rather than money that we actually need for our expenses.


Many of us likely realize that a certain level of satisfaction comes from setting goals, reaching them and even exceeding them...which also comes from setting goals that are challenging but not unrealistic.


Frequently when we set high goals, we may well not even need to reach the pinnacle of the goal in order to still have high levels of satisfaction even if we might somewhere down the line realize that we are going to need to bring our pinnacle goal down based on real world events and how things might have ended up playing out somewhat differently than what we had tentatively planned at some earlier time (perhaps even having had set the goals 5-10 years earlier or even longer periods than that). 


Of course there are various ways to categorize our back up funds, and surely the emergency funds should have fairly strict terms upon whihc they are spent, and ideally we never ever have to spend our emergency funds, since even frequently actual emergencies might even be dealt with through other forms of back up funds and/or reserve funds without having to dip into actual emergency funds.

I consider back up funds to be a term that covers all of the categories of funds and then emergency funds, reserve funds and float are categories within the different kinds of back up funds.  It is good to know the difference between these kinds of funds, yet we frequently are also going to find that some people might interchange terms or they might not know the difference between the different kinds of funds, which surely it can be helpful to both figure out the difference and then also have some kind of an actual practice that makes sure to try to keep cushions and to prioritize between different kinds of money that might sometimes have specific designations, such as emergency funds is like the last set of funds before having to dip into our investments.. but then we might have different funds that serve for different specific purposes that we have, yet our purposes might change over time, whether they are set aside for buying bitcoin on dips or for some other purpose such as home repair, car repair, computer purchase, buying a bike for a daughter, taking spouse on a vacation, etc etc...some of those reserve funds have higher priorities than others in terms of relationship building/maintaining or even in terms of some kinds of expenses might help bring higher income or prevent loss of income.