Sometimes people forget the experience of the team that is one of the strengths for Madrid to get good results every season. In Madrid's history we all know how the final result is and in my opinion this season even though Madrid has to experience a little problem with injured players, but just look in January Ancelotti will get new players to advance to the round of 16.
Madrid may end up in the play-off position, but that doesn't mean Madrid can't get into the round of 16.
A lot will change in the next month and we will see teams that currently look strong become worse and teams that look bad will become better.
Not that people actually did forgot that the experience of a team could mean a lot and aswell help a lot but the thing is that a team can actually become so terrible that people begin to loose so much interest and confidence in the team to the point it feels their experience doesn't really matters and even the team becomes psychologically affected and their performance and productivity drop even with the level of experience that have got because change is always consistent.and will happen at any ti.e especially when it becomes needed.