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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
by
philipma1957
on 25/12/2024, 11:54:10 UTC
⭐ Merited by vapourminer (1) ,JayJuanGee (1)
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At the same time, I would suggest that you are wrong in regards to your description of the vulnerability being ameliorated by having a stronger pin number, which I believe hardly does shit if someone has  physical access to the device with a non-secure element.  
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no no JJG .... The PIN is used to encrypt the seed on your device. A strong (long) PIN cannot be cracked via brute force, so it's not possible to decrypt your seed when someone gets hold of your device.

That's why Trezor enabled PINs with 50 digit length (maybe longer), when they fixed the vulnerability of physical access a few years ago.  

Means, if your PIN is long enough (has enough entropy) nobody can get the seed out of your device.

No (un)secure element needed !


I mentioned that for the  t-one. you can write a really long pin. 

but JJG may be recalling this hack of the trezor 1

https://jochen-hoenicke.de/crypto/trezor-power-analysis/


but this should not happen any more since the firmware should be updated and you should have a longer pin