Sure, you may have made a few more points that might be considered potentially interesting, yet largely I consider you to be making straw man arguments, and even arguing against yourself in terms of repetitive kinds of assertions about what you consider to be the person with true retired options.

I gave you some examples regarding how guys might choose to spend their time, and their time could be spent in productive activity or they could be spending time in various hobbies that they choose and they may or may not get paid for their participation in such hobbies.

I am pretty sure that I already asserted that if a person is largely (or even completely) living off of his investments, and he can choose whether or not to work, then he likely fits into the FIRE status.

I don't give too many shits about details that you seem to believe matter, since there is already a lot of power that comes from not having to work, and then choosing activities from there, and surely we could have situations in which guys were planning on continuing to work, and then things happen with their work (their cashflow), and so they might choose whether to replace their previous work with new work or they might decide if they already have sufficient finances in place in order to largely continue to support their previous standard of living. 

There are likely levels of obligations, and surely there may well be differing ways in which income is described on tax forms including if the income is considered to come from working or not or from performance or not, yet sometimes the lines are not clear from merely how the income is described,  and some folks choose to continue to have their "businesses operating" so that they largely end up counting many of their spending as "company expenses," so there can be quite a bit of variation.

I recall a business credit card that I had received recently, and there are various benefits on the credit card, and it is described as a card that needs to be for the business and not for personal expenses.  Interesting how that might be divided and allocated on various personal categorizations of money, including perhaps some of the employees who also ended up receiving credit cards that fell under the same business.  Will any of us be doing any work in the sense that Franky1 considers to be work?  Y

ou have some strange ideas about how matters need to be treated and which folks you consider to be free and not free, and perhaps the FI is the ONLY part that really matters in the FIRE acronym?  Even though I have been participating in this thread, I did not come up with such dumb acronym, even though I am quite fond of what I thought to be the idea of FIRE being similar as the idea of a guy having had determined that he had reached fuck you status.. which surely is enough detail for my own consideration of the matter, and there can be a lot of variance when it comes down to personal application, and whether the lifestyles (or the mindset) are sufficiently free for you (Franky1)./