i fully understand your philosophy is to be financially independent to have full choice/options to work or retire
being FI is one thing, and there are many topics about it,
but you have wasted many days and posts of lengthy text trying to presume retirement is inclusive of working
I don't recall saying that work is part of Financial independence,
so you think work is part of retirement but now you want to suggest work is NOT an option for financial independence
(facepalm)
It seems to me that to the extent that I took any position, I repeatedly suggested that work is optional for someone who is financially independent. You seem to be the one who is proclaiming that as soon as anyone does any kind of activity that might be considered to be work, within your own arbitrary and seemingly effervescent characterization, the such person could neither consider himself to be in FIRE status and he could not refer to himself as being in FIRE status. You seem to be the one with strict definitions that I have been suggesting to be overly restrictive and even oppressive in and of themselves, especially if someone otherwise considering himself to have had been in FIRE status has to consult with the Franky1 dictionary of definitions to verify that he is not misrepresenting (or misconceptualizing - due to a potentially inadequate mentality) his actual status according to Franky1.
now you have become a idiot troll(again) and im definitely going to treat you as such until your ready to think rationally
You are the retard, and it seems that I was merely trying to be nice in terms of entertaining your fantastical proclamations about what is and what is not FIRE status.
i honestly thought you made a change last year, but it seems you went backwards this year..
Oh gawd.. what a patronizing twat...and just making shit up about your memories of some of our other interactions when you probably were engaged in other nutjob assertions in regards to how you believe that the world should be.
The mere fact that I send you smerits from time to time does not even mean that I agree with your frequent nonsense, in spite your sometimes making some points that seem to be worthy of recognition for their substance - including showing that even through your delusional self-aggrandizement practices, you do sometimes have abilities to have posts demonstrating lucid and somewhat logical moments.
have a nice life and welcome back to the idiot group again(you know which one)
As if I give any shits if you choose to live in your lil fantasy self-absorbed bubble.
which you did escape from for a while but it seems you want to join again, your welcome
Again. .that is your choice... I give few shits about your determinations, and I doubt that you show good judgement in regards to those choices anyhow.. so do what you like.
dont reply just to act upset,
Why would I be upset.
dont reply just because said dont reply,
I tend to reply if I consider that some point might either be addressing me or I consider the point to be something that I would like to respond to.
Here it seems that your barking out orders is largely just an attempt at manipulation.. which perhaps you are unable to stop yourself from doing.
dont reply just to show how stupid you can sound
For sure. I admit that part. I don't claim to have smart responses, and engaging with you is probably not very smart, since you frequently show that you have difficulties controlling your own emotions...including that many times you devolve from addressing substantive points, and you deviate into nonsensical and frequently irrelevant side talking points.
just get the hint.. you got no clue and not willing to learn, so no point in you continuing in this conversation
What is there to learn? We have differing opinions, and you want to proclaim that you have some kind of higher knowledge on the topic merely because you consider your opinion to be superior. I consider my opinions on this particular topic to be at least as good as yours, to the extent to which some of our topics might overlap, yet since we are tending to talk past each other in some areas, it is not like it can be conclusively determined that one perspective is better than the other, especially when some of the possible discussion areas are semantic rather than substantive.
..i apologise to the other readers of this topic for JJG acting like a troll and trying to weirdly abuse/twist the definition, meaning, philosophy and lifestyle choices of FIRE to derail the topic into his weird word waffles
I doubt that there is any need to apologize for me, and sure I will admit that I have some opinions about the topic that relate back to various ways of incorporating bitcoin investment into the topic, and yeah, we otherwise did go through some of the various ways that my opinion differs from yours in regards to how the RE portion of FIRE might be treated. I probably should apologize for my own repetition in terms of engaging with Franky1, even though surely some portions of our discussion might have been helpful to some members, and surely I am not even claiming that I better understand my own position to the extent that sometimes I might have had failed to keep some of Franky1's seemingly dogmatic ideas in some kind of a check to the extent it is even possible to find some common grounds with a stubborn twat like Franky1.
its not his fault he is just too young, naive and ignorant to know such things
one day how might learn, and i hope he does..someday
Again, you are devolving into a patronizing aire that comes off as mostly irrelevant to the extent that you are even qualified to assess based on my supposed incapacities rather than attempting to address actual substantive points that I made at various points in our discussion. I imagine that many forum members zone out when discussions seem to devolve too far down into seemingly personal attacks rather than really attempting to battle around about some of the potentially important substantive talking points - which frequently I will consider that forum members are frequently more concerned about various ways that they might get to some kind of FIRE status and then also they may well be concerned how to stay within such FIRE status once getting there rather than getting too much caught up in seemingly meaningless battles about whether they self qualify for being within or outside of FIRE status depending on the extent that they might consider working or earning money while they are perceiving themselves to be within some variation of FIRE status, which likely there may even be borderline statuses that some of us might still consider to still fall within some variation of FIRE status even though such status might not fit with a Franky1 framing of what he believes to constitute actual FIRE status.