Bitcoin is not guaranteed, even if we look at the long term.

We might be a lot closer to saying that fiat is guaranteed to continue to lose value, and various fiat and/or debt systems retain a lot of encumbrances where they cannot really print their way out of the level of their encumbrances, and the value of bitcoin is somewhat related to the guarantee that various fiat systems are fucked.. and also bitcoin is more money-like and a better money than other places where value could be held, so bitcoin is the best place to put value, yet it still is not guaranteed.

Each of us should attempt to manage our bitcoin position size, and sure there is no problem to be as aggressive as we are able to be in regards to putting value in bitcoin, yet I think that we would get ourselves into trouble if we really expect some kind of guarantee.. whether we are looking 4-10 years down the road or even some further out time frame.


I cannot think of any shitcoin that even closely would be able to survive without bitcoin, which means that they are all tied to the success of bitcoin's performance in order to perform, and sure it could be possible that you might study one or more shitcoins and consider some potential that they might  have, yet there is burden to actually figure out the coin and why it might have value, so most likely if any of us are going to gamble on any shitcoin and we cannot resist but to consider that one or more shitcoins have long term value, then perhaps we can save ourselves from being recked if we limit our investment into any of the shitcoins to less than 10% the  size of our bitcoin investment.... .. another thing that we have to consider (as you also seemed to suggest PremiumcryptoHub), is that when we are spending time fucking around with various shitcoins that are likely valueless, we are diluting our time, energies and value from bitcoin, and so there is a lot to learn from bitcoin, and sure maybe we can learn more than one thing at a time and we can dilute our funds and not be negatively affected, yet we should consider how well we are using our time, energies and value if we are putting that into shitcoins rather than into bitcoin.


You are correct.  We cannot let the shitcoiners and the convolution of topics distract us from both seeing bitcoin first, but not letting them confuse and distract from our understanding of the value of bitcoin, bitcoin first and understanding the difference between bitcoin and shitcoins, including that dumb-ass politicians are talking out of both sides of their mouths and investing into WBTC rather than real bitcoin... and yeah, they might be making a killing through their fraud and the attention that they get, but we still need to keep our eyes on the prize, including if their might also be some attacks upon bitcoin that could be happening too.. yet even if there are not direct attacks, some of the framings could be more subtle kinds of attacks that contribute to confusion rather than clarity..


Sometimes shitcoins can retain value for many years and through more than one bitcoin cycle.. Think about that shitcoin ethereum, it is ONLY recently dying like it should be, yet many times, even recently, there were folks proclaiming that ethereum had outperformed bitcoin for extended periods of time (which it actually did), so there can be various ways to cause a lot of shitcoins to create value very quickly, and some folks might end up being successful in riding those waves or getting distracted into those kinds of pump and dump schemes. 

Some of them will pollute the conversation, and they might not even be factually inaccurate about how much money they made in a short period of time, yet there still are going to be needs to keep our eyes on the prize.. the scams are not going to stop and we might even have 4 years of scams, and some of them might outperform bitcoin, and we might not even know exactly why they are pumping and they might even have some "bitcoin-like" qualities, including ingenious ways to pump and to cause some of their followers to get rich quick and to be lured away from bitcoin.  If you sufficiently come to understand some of the reasons why bitcoin is sound money and why sound money is the killer app, then you are less likely to get distracted away by shiny objects and/or  lures of short term profits that may or may not end up working out for you, even if they might appear like "free-money." 

I would still suggest that any guys getting distracted into various shitcoins, they should attempt to exercise some self-control and don't be allocating more than 10% of your time, energies and/or values into shitcoins.  I personally recommend just say no to those distractions, yet I know many guys cannot resist, so if they can at least limit their gambling, then they would have greater chances of NOT overly fucking themselves in regards to their own inclinations towards "fun" or whatever might be luring them over to the shiny bells and whistles.


People are repeatedly dumb, so they will buy into some of the talking points and even come to bitcoin threads to pump their nonsense.  Some guys will also get completely out of bitcoin or maybe even just hold 10% in bitcoin, so it can be difficult to control degeneracy and gullibility - and so sometimes it can be difficult to save others from themselves, and we largely may ONLY be able to save ourselves and/or to limit our own level of distractedness.