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Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL!
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Justbillywitt
on 04/02/2025, 14:32:24 UTC
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It would be wrong to say that the dip is the ideal time to buy, but you can definitely use that time to maximize your gains.
sure, I've seen that Bitcoin is a great asset and that's why it is at my number 1 watchlists. I've seen that it keeps making progressive movement and gets going and better every year. I've come to see that there is nothing to say as ATL because even if it dips, it still skyrockets and get better corrective movement.
Thanks for the light you've thrown with this explanation.

Maximizing gains is a trading, rather than an investing concept.

Sure if we are able to buy on dips, then we would be able to buy more BTC with the same amount of fiat.... yet if we are holding back and waiting for dips, we might end up with fewer btc (satoshis) than what we would have had by just buying BTC persistently, consistently, regularly and perhaps aggressively.  

In other words, no problem taking advantage of dips if you happen to be in a position to take advantage of such dip, yet hopefully not too many BTC accumulators are causing too much whimpiness in their BTC accumulation strategy based on waiting for dips rather than buying BTC regularly.

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I solemnly agree with you that the term ATL usage in this is inappropriate, Bitcoin could dip and get lower than it's current ATH but using the term ATL is wrong because ATL usually happens in every  halving circles and before bullruns which the price goes low and dip before going high and attaining a new ATH.

Your agreement with me is wrongly summarizing up what I said including that I said that ATL (all time low) = $0... since bitcoin started out at zero.  Bitcoin did not start with a price, so don't be retarded by using the term ATL to describe what bitcoin's price is doing over a cycle or over some short term period since it is misleading, confusing, and unnecessary to use such description, unless you are wanting to say that bitcoin goes to zero every cycle.  Any normal person and with basic English skills should be reasonably able to describe a local low in bitcoin's pricer or you can describe a cyclical low and be more accurate in your description rather than using inaccurate and misleading terms like ATL (all time low) to describe cyclical or local low BTC prices.

The current time is to buy Bitcoin dips, because the price of Bitcoin was dumped from $105k to $90k. You should note that if you could buy a dip here, then you would definitely have enough to hold for a long time. Buy Bitcoin at the low point and save it for a long time, after holding it for a long time with maximum benefits, you will definitely reach the highest peak.
See more details and buy Bitcoin dip, : https://www.fool.com/investing/2025/02/01/bitcoin-buy-the-dip/
Every dip is an opportunity to have or accumulate more Bitcoin it is important we continuously buy bitcoin and HODL for long rather than buying during the dip hodl and buy again when there is another dip. The link you also sent contains more on the word Crypto which could be misleading for those who may not really know the difference between bitcoin and Crypto so they won't go and invest into shitcoins thinking or believing it is bitcoin.

Over the years, Motley Fool has not been very informed about bitcoin, and they have frequently said pretty stupid stuff about bitcoin, showing that they have not understood bitcoin, and based on their disclaimer at the bottom of
their article, they still seem to not understand bitcoin since I am pretty sure that they are not recommending it within their top 10 picks (which I cannot see their current picks since it seems to be behind a paywall).

In other words, it would likely be best to take whatever Motley Fool says about bitcoin with a decently-sized grain of salt - since they still don't seem to understand bitcoin even though they have been talking about it in their various articles (and even much of the time recommending against it) for more than 10 years... now they seem to potentially be warming up to bitcoin a wee bit more.. but still luke warm at best.

i bought the dip
who else?
it is indeed very good to buy the dips but in all, proper planning is needed in order to avoid taking risks that will destroy your DCA accumulation. Dips are nice but it is also good to place our priorities for I can remember very well diving into the dips with money I didn't initially planned to use for it but rather was for something else and I almost ended out totally pushed out of game but immediate action to maximize risks was what helped me and I was able to handle daily needs and bills.  So dips are good but don't misplace priorities and end up regretting.

Even if you might have learned some lessons, you are speaking with a lot of vagueness, and maybe you want to  be more specific in regards to describing how you might act in regards to buying dips versus DCA versus lump sum.

What are you doing?  Are you planning or acting or are you doing both?  And how far  does this experience go back? It can  take a long time to build up a BTC portfolio, and  you have ONLY been on the forum for less than 6 months.. have you been buying BTC the whole time or have  you been merely planning and regretting that you did not buy earlier?  I doubt any lessons are learned merely from regretting that you did not take action to buy BTC earlier.  We have many people in the world with those kinds of resentments, but still ongoing, persistent and consistent failures/refusals to act.

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The best way to go about  buying a dip is, as you are accumulating Bitcoin through the DCA accumulating strategy then in the process their is a serious dip in the market like the way it is now,  buy only if you have the financial leverage to do so, but if you don't have the leverage to do so, don't just bother yourself, because it's more better that your stash of Bitcoin is not tempered with than to add to it now and temper with it later.

Your use of the term leverage can be misinterpreted, since many times we don't need to employ any leverage, and first thing is that we should be putting solid systems in place that involve good cashflow management and then probably buying bitcoin regularly with our discretionary income, and our level of BTC accumulation aggressiveness may well depend both on how strong our cashflow management systems but also how much BTC we had already accumulated.  

Once our systems are more solid then we might play around with ways that we might use financial tools or higher levels of aggressiveness, such as leveraging.. yet those are more advanced systems rather than any parts of regular building of systems in which buying on dips may or may not be feasible for newbie bitcoiners.  I would imagine if someone might have front load his investment a lot, then he might hold back some value to be able to buy on dips if such dips were to come.

We are really not 100 % sure that our Bitcoin investment will bring profit because there's still a little bit of risk involved in Bitcoin investment whether long-term investment or short-term investment, so therefore I agree that bitcoin may not give someone the  huge returns that most people expect it to actually give them.
There's high risk involve in investing in Altcoin and should be avoided a lot of it are even scam created to manipulate people.
Even though Bitcoin investing carries some risk, I believe there is a guarantee that one is going to profit a lot if they keep their investment for a long period. Don't be discouraged by saying that investing in Bitcoin cannot promise 100% profits; if you have yet to invest in Bitcoin, take some lessons from individuals who were successful and made huge profits in Bitcoin; they did not do so in a single day; you must hold for a long time and continue to accumulate as much as you can, and I believe you will realize that investing in Bitcoin provides 100% profits.

Bitcoin is not guaranteed to be profitable.

If you do not use leverage then you are guaranteed that the most that you could lose is 100% of what you invested.  It is misleading to proclaim that bitcoin is guaranteed to make profits.

Many folks invest into bitcoin aggressively because they believe that the odds are pretty high that it is going to have a higher value (price) in the future as compared today and even accounting for the debasement  of the dollar.  There are also a lot of upside scenarios that make bitcoin amongst the best (if not the best) of asymmetric bets the upside, but even if bitcoin is amongst the best, it still is not guaranteed to be profitable in the future as you are proclaiming.

The price of bitcoin is not far from normal but you described it with "fell heavily" like all hope is lost. This is only another opportunity for optimists to add to their wallets. Donald Trump's enactments are not solely for bitcoin success and trusting him too much is the mistake many investors are making. I will even suggest that anyone investing in bitcoin because of Donald Trump's presumed influence should just quit to avoid disappointment if it goes the other way.
Anyone buying Bitcoin simply because of Trump influence is a trader and not an investor because he's just buying the trend and not accumulating Bitcoin because of his/her belief on the true value of Bitcoin and the investment opportunity it presents. Such a person would only hold for short term gains and sell off when the price appreciates if Trump influence turns out positive.

Investors should drive their motivation from the solid foundation and value Bitcoin presents, joined with it's proven history of profitability. The trends should be off less focus from an investor. Every investor should work hard to make discretionary income available to purchase Bitcoin periodically. Your accumulation target and your holding duration should be your prime focus to reach, paying less attention to the noises coming from trends and influencers.
So, sure sometimes we can adjust our time that we buy BTC from time to time in order to take advantage of dips in the BTC price, yet hopefully we are also not getting too distracted
You can't keep adjusting all in the name of trying to get the dip. That's not how to go about it. You can go about it this way, as you are continuing you consistent weekly DCA, you divide your money into three halves, and keep one part. And continue accumulating with the other parts weekly. So that whenever the dip you were trying to catch by shifting your accumulation days, finally come you then use the other part of the money you kept to accumulate it. So you still benefit from it, it's better this way.

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if we might have made it to a higher level of over accumulation of BTC, which truly some guys seem to have reached that higher level.. but some guys believe that they reached over accumulation of BTC status.
I don't think there is any level of bitcoin accumulation stage that can be considered as over accumulation. You can only accumulated as much as you wanted. Come on, only you don't have the entire bitcoin in circulation, so how can you over accumulate. Moreover accumulation of bitcoin is a deliberate effort. So how can you over accumulate it, I don't really believe there's any over accumulation stage. You only get to a point where you stop being aggressive.

Another thing is that your quoting is wrong, try looking into it for possible correction. But if you can't figure out how to do it, you can take a look at  beginners and help thread. There you will find useful topics the talks about how to quote properly. If you don't see it, ask question there and someone will help you with it. It's helps to quote properly, especially when you are quoting more than one person. Please do that it will be more of help to you.