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Re: I would like to ask the DTs for their opinion on this case
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Don Pedro Dinero
on 05/02/2025, 12:03:15 UTC
If you tag people for what they post that is not related to scam, you need to be removed from DT because you do not know what DT is used for.

For neutral tags? The one who has no idea is you, just as you have no idea about trading.

But let us put that aside. Can you and I bet $50 and let us try if it will work or not. I will trade $100 for 20 days. If I make $40 which is 2% in 20 days, you will give me $50. But if I lose or did not make up to 2% daily ($40), I will send you $50. Let the payment be in bitcoin.

I am willing, open a thread about it in the Trading section and we will discuss the conditions.

This is a forum with at least some level of free speech, which is why you shouldn't take everything you read online as 100% true without doing your research.
Tagging people for comments in a forum is quite inappropriate and you should be removed from DT for proposing possible abuse against other forum members.

I don't know why you get so nervous about the possibility of neutral tags. Do you have your alt commenting on that thread?

If you start tagging users for bringing such discussions, then you may need to read LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system

It seems to me that I know it  better than you do.

  • Use Neutral feedback for anything that doesn't mean someone can or can't be trusted. This can be good feedback, for instance when someone helped you out.
  • I think Neutral Feedback is currently undervalued on Bitcointalk. It's a great tool to de-escalate without drastic consequences. Please use it when appropriate.

You want to tag someone for giving his opinion in a forum like this? Those comments are not financial advice but personal opinions <...>

They are not personal opinions they are pure shitposting without a real basis that can mislead people who don't know about it to get into trading because of those opinions. Let alone the ones that say it's easy to get it with leverage.

Tags on the forums trust network are intended for trace. If someone offers a service that is misleading they are warranted for a neutral tag in my opinion.

For trade are the positives and negatives (you can use neutral much widely) and someone offering a “service” that offers 2% daily (let alone 5%) I will red tag him.

  • If you see a particular trader who claims they make 5% profit daily and they created thread for it in other to lure naive investors to scam, you are free to leave a neutral trust. This is what The free market capitalist call the preventive measure.
  • But if it is only about a debate in a generic thread, handing a neutral tag will mean you are using your DT power to suppress others and influence their opinion, which is pretty what a few DT members do here. I don't find that to be a good way to use the DT strength.
I don't see it that way. As I said, if someone offers that service I will red tag them. So it is reasonable to think of neutral tags for those who defend such nonsense.

You could also ask them to clarify what they mean.     It's easy to get a 5% return on a single day but it's also easy to lose that 5%. 

Clearly, they are talking about easy daily returns, which we can understand as an average of between 2% and 5% per day.

I also wouldn't give out tags for this.

The difference in whether or not returns are generated via scam is if they are fixed, consistent, or varying.

Fixed = the biggest red flag.
Consistent = maybe they know what they're doing.
Varying = the most honest response... "We may make money, but there's a chance we could lose it as well."

In the thread in question, the OP could be referring to an average across weeks, months, or years. They didn't say anything about the return being compounded daily;

Again, it is clear, they are talking about easy daily returns, which we can well understand as an average of between 2% and 5% per day. Not compounded, average.

How will that tag even be written and how will someone defend themselves from such feedback?

I don't know how they would defend themselves, it could be something like this: 'misleading people into thinking that you can get impossible returns easily with day trading'.

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What happened to: 'you can use neutral tags for almost anything'.