oh ok, thanks for verifying.  i just had more time to read through some of the other pages of the forum so its good to see a solver that actually posts here often for a change.  dont think that has happened for many months or longer.   my method of trying to solve is nothing like anything that is written here but it also scans much more slowly so i have less hope i will solve the other puzzles now since you all have found much faster methods it seems like.  still going to try 68 next though and see how more attempts go with that.