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Re: Holydarkness and Casino Disputes—Something’s Fishy
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holydarkness
on 10/03/2025, 19:49:46 UTC
For those who are not familiar with the player's case, the player created a thread here about his experience in August 2023, where he claimed he experienced 158 losing streak and thus questions the provable fairness of DuckDice, that the game was rigged.

The provable fairness can easily be proven suppose the player has access to his account. But unfortunately, the account was wiped clean in accordance to GDPR's "right to be forgotten". Fortunately, the player had one screenshot that he shared with his online friend, that contain a betID, that then can be used by DuckDice to emulate the betting activity at that time.

With the help of Khaled0111, DuckDice can build "a list" that prove that the statement of 158 losing streak by the player is invalid. Later, following this findings, the player clarifies that they switched sides often, that effectively made the compilation useless as it proves nothing.

Amidst this uncertainty, of which nutildah summarized rather nicely above as "situation became a convoluted entanglement of accusations from both sides", Kirito89 as DuckDice Representative realized that the betID did not just provide a way to emulate the old gameplay, but also contain the server seed that can be used to pull the betting history.

Know that it is not a violation of GDPR. The betting history being pulled is a nameless bets, with the only ties to the player, and can only be identified as his simply due to the betID given by the player. The server seed is the data stored by the casino for their internal record and does not reflect personal data that ought to be removed following the enactment of Right to be Forgotten.

Breaking down the convoluted story and detangle the entanglement, if we refer to the player original narrative in his thread, he demanded fairness and explanation of the 158 losing streak and the questionable Provable Fairness of DuckDice due to that "outstanding" losing streak. On other threads that the player created, the player assure that his sole goal is to prove the rigged game by DuckDice, the --freely summarized-- malpractice and disguise of provable fairness that he experienced wrongly due to the losing streak that made them lose 0.37 BTC.

Later on, in this very thread, the player made a statement that the purpose the thread he made is to get DuckDice to pay the fund he lost. I asked his confirmation whether the true purpose of those threads, as well as this one, is simply to get the fund he lost on DuckDice, that he once again assured that all he seek is transparency.



The results of what's provided to me, and I can confirm, are as what Kirito89 said above:

Of Provable Fairness due to Losing Streak
The spreadsheet given to me was not like the previous attempt made in collaboration with Khaled0111 where the list shows the longest losing streak in under or over. The spreadsheet that is in my possession, however, is basically the betting history of the player itself, his winning and his losing. 0 and 1. A yes and a no. A win and a lose.

With about thousands of entries that made my eyes water just to scan them, not only that the statement of playing in 15.5% chance is unfounded as the bets were made with 33% chance, the more important point that I think is better to be pointed out rather than the 33% v. 15.5% is that I can not find a losing streak of 158 times. Not even a 50 losing streak in a row.

With this, I believe I can safely say that the claim of 158 losing streak at 15.5% is unproven to be true.

Of Fairness and Transparency as The Aim of The Thread
The player sent DuckDice an email asking for a refund if transparency can not be provided, despite the claim that the purpose of the threads are to get clarification of the losing streak. I can see that the emails are indeed sent from the players email address as shown on the other thread.

Though it entitle overseers to question the real purpose of the threads, I choose to ask the player, for the very last time, of his true intent: with above explanation that provable fairness being proven, that 158 losing streak never existed and DuckDice has been transparent with their games, that it was not rigged, do you still stick to your original narrative, that you only seek for clarification and transparency, thus accepting above findings as satisfactory and made peace with your loss, or were the threads are indeed an attempt to get a refund for loss during your stay with DuckDice, and thus, the above transparency through betting history is negligible and you will not accept any answer until the refund being initiated?