Re: AI Spam Report Reference Thread

@LoyceV, You can not expect everybody to strive for gold standards of postings ( objectivity, particularity etc.).
My last post in which I have given him clean chit was specifically regarding AI usage since you suspected that it doesn't sound human. I encouraged him though for taking extra efforts to carefully craft his responses recently.
You have a very long experience of posting here and I bet, if you want, you can criticize almost 99.9% of members here on the matter of content.
I can also bet on the fact that almost all of us started here and made mistakes regarding content. l

There are quite a few members who speak in gibberish, gobble-dee gook and even throw in a lot of buzz words to make it seem that they know what they are talking about, yet it can sometimes be difficult to determine if their posts are being written by AI or with AI assistance or they are coming up with their nonsensical inconsistencies within their own talents.

Of course, the learning process is going to include figuring out that you did not know what you might have earlier thought that you knew, so surely it seems that many of us need to try to give some of the newer members leeway to work through their learning about some of the areas that some of us might consider to be "basics," easy and straight-forward topics or even "common sense."

Sometimes it can be annoying to read posts of newbies lecturing on a topic in which it seems relatively clear that they don't really know the topic and/or their ways of expressing themselves border on the annoying, and it might seem that they would be better off to post aspects of their own experiences and perhaps ask a few questions rather than lecturing the participants of the thread.. yet even after being confronted about their style, some of the annoying newbie members will figure out some better ways of balancing their forum participation so that others might not be as annoyed with them and that other members might be able to learn from them (perhaps in a less lecturing kinds of ways).

I know that I can also get into a lecturing mode, even when I had not intended to get into such a lecturing mode, so surely sometimes the repetition of our exposure to topics can contribute towards our own callousness in regards to how we perceive some of the newer members to be expressing their views and/or their experiences about any given topic.. to the extent that some of the newer members are even able to stay somewhat within the topic of the thread with their posts.

Sorry for responding late (I hope it does not disturb the current flow of discussion). I marked your post previously, as I thought it would take me some time to get the essence of what you are saying.
You want to say (correct me if I am wrong) to senior members to just chill and give new members some time to play and learn while doing childish things Grin

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I remember my discussion with you regarding intraday trading vs investing, and I was debating rigorously (not going to provide link Grin

). I appreciated your detailed responses back then (for me, back then is quite less Grin

), but now I am appreciating it even more after reading your thoughts on how to treat new members. Cheesy

I know a few established members who care for new members with a long-term vision and have the utmost respect for them.

I am not going to claim to be any kind of saint with my tolerance of the posts of new members, since some kinds of post contents will trigger me more into a hostile response, yet there are forum members with various backgrounds and various abilities to express themselves, and surely some of the members will improve in their perspectives and also their abilities to express themselves in ways that are potentially helpful to other members.

Sometimes members will also explain their own process of coming around to bitcoin or searching for ways to get bitcoin in their own country, and perhaps on some grander level, we might consider their experiences to NOT be very interesting, yet if we consider what they are saying within their own timeline of learning about bitcoin, we might be able to recognize how they might have gone down some worse road, but then learned how to adjust and perhaps reroute their own journey in such a way that some of the newer members might be able to relate to their perspective.

Some new members might also have a lot of bad and even dumb ideas, yet after they go back and forth arguing about their perspective, they might also come to realize that they need to tweak some of their ways of thinking and including following up with better practices... and some of their journey might involve getting distracted into shitcoins, and perhaps relevant to this thread, some of them might make mistakes of overly relying on the assistance of AIs to write their posts, which surely would be problematic if they don't end up correcting their ways.

I have a friend in real life who from time to time, I request to submit me reports about certain topics related to his studying projects (like early college level), and this friend, submits me very shitty reports that I believe are either written by AI and/or the friend is copy and pasting ideas from various articles and proclaiming that he wrote them. When I tell him that he needs to figure out ways to write better reports so that he can improve himself and to create his own ideas rather than copying and pasting a bunch of blather, he tries to act as if he had written the report, which truly cannot be true, based on the way that the reports are written...

So what I am trying to say is that it can take folks a long time to motivate themselves to want to learn how to think for themselves and also to present their own ideas in ways that are interesting rather than copying and pasting or relying on some kind of cheating mechanism that is not even reflective of their own thoughts and ideas.

I don't even have any problems with some people having boring and dumb ideas as long as they are coming up with the ideas themselves rather than either copy and pasting from some other source, or using some kind of an AI service.

My native language is English, and many years I have been learning Spanish, so frequently if I write in Spanish, I will write my first draft in Spanish, and then I will look at its translation in English and then have some translation program give me suggestions about how to write it better in Spanish, so then I am learning how to say my thoughts in a better way in Spanish but at the same time, most of the time, I had written the original draft in Spanish and I don't always accept all of the suggested changes to my version. The process becomes easier with practice, and it will also help to improve oral comprehension and speaking skills too.

There are likely forum members who have gotten much better at English over the years through their forum interactions, yet surely some forum members are more disciplined than others to make sure that they are ongoingly learning how to understand and how to express themselves better so that they are not speaking in gibberish, so we might not even realize that their in-person English skills are not very good.. because they use the translation tools to learn and they get better and better in their own post-drafting skills (and likely their reading comprehension in English improves too).