I am rebutting your earlier statement, in which you said that a person can never have enough BTC, so I am showing you an example of something that could have had been possible to achieve in the past 9 years. 

Even though history does not guarantee future results, I am showing you an example of someone who would have had more than sufficiently accumulated more than enough bitcoin based on his having had accumulated bitcoin, with a $20k front loaded investment (9 years ago), and then  investing around 30% of his income,  It actually possible that I could have used half those numbers, and still achieved more than enough bitcoin with the guy having had accumulated 32 bitcoin rather than 64 bitcoin, yet I wanted to show a greater extreme of what would have had been possible in the last 9 years... and there are way more lesser extreme exampes that still could have had resulted in enough or more than enough BTC accumulated.


Not everyone thinks like you, and not everyone wants to keep working all of their lives.  Sure, in my example the guy is still fairly young since he is still ONLY in his early 40s, so surely he could choose to continue to work, but he does not have to... so I doubt that merely because you believe that he is going to keep accumulating or keep working, that does not mean he is going to do that.


The example that I gave was so extreme that the guy is likely somewhere in the ballpark of more than 4x what he needs (wants), so he does not need to accumulate more.  From what he could earn from BTC living off his BTC, he also is in the ballpark of close to 10x his current standard of living.  I don't see why he would feel any need to accumulate more, even though sure there are a variety of directions that he could take that involves some ways that the value of his BTC stash continues to grow, so if he is taking anything less than 10% per year of the 200-WMA dollar value, then the dollar value of his bitcoin holdings (especially at the level of the 200-WMA) is quite likekly going to grow faster than he is withdrawing it.. and yeah, sure , he can monitor his withdrawal rate to make sure that he does not over withdraw, but from my perspective he still seems to have a whole hell-of-a-lot of cushion so he should not necessarily be motivated into thinking that he needs more bitcoin to sustain many multiples of his current standard of living.


In the example that I gave, the guy has way more than enough, and sure he can choose to completely quit his job or sure he might have other sources, of income, yet even if he does not have any additional income sources, he still has way more than enough bitcoin that he can figure out however he likes to manage the selling of his bitcoin holdings and/or the extent t which he might want to buy bitcoin on dips or not, if he also might figure out ways to start to sell bitcoin within his own scheduling and parameters.

In my sustainable withdrawal thread, I talk about various ways to engage in sustainable withdrawal that can be price based and/or time based, so there can be tools to even overly sell BTC at certain points in time to just keep extra cash on hand, whether its kept in regular cash or if the guy might choose to put his extra withdrawal in other kinds of assets.  It surely is nice to have options, yet there can be quite a bit of variability that makes it difficult to describe withdrawal options that are overly restrictive in terms of various feasible options that guys could end up exercising.


Each of us is in a position to do whatever we like when it comes to managing our bitcoin holdings and if we might consider it prudent to change the management of our bitcoin, even getting out of bitcoin, if we begin to believe that our reasons for investing into bitcoin are no longer as strong as they previously had been.

I personally believe that bitcoin is likely going to continue to be a life time investment rather than an investment that one  gets in and out of, so sure some guys might end up selling too much too soon or become disenchanted about bitcoin, and they are free to make those kinds of choices, even if they might have had intended to invest into bitcoin for longer periods of time, such as 10 years or longer, they might end up choosing to cut their investment timeline short.


Surely Saylor had been changing his tune in recent times, and suggesting that he might have to sell in order to service some of the new kinds of financial instruments that the company had chosen to issue.  There can be some folks who lose their confidence in Saylor/MSTR based on their newly chosen strategies.

Even though Saylor/MSTR is the largest individual/ public company holder of bitcoin, he still is not bitcoin, and bitcoin is going to keep going whether Saylor/MSTR is in bitcoin or not.  We cannot choose who buys bitcoin or what they do with it once they have it, including acknowledging that bitcoin is for friends and for enemies., so surely there could be bitcoin manipulation attempts that might happen from time to time.


I think that if we have experience investing into bitcoin, then it becomes more clear how to valuate our bitcoin, and surely traditional investment assets allow you to withdraw at about 4% per year, yet even with traditional assets, any of us can get into trouble if our investment is not performing at least as good as our withdrawal rate, which is part of the reason that I choose to valuate the bitcoin stash with the 200-WMA, which I think will be much more solid of a basis to be able to see if either downward adjustments or upward adjustments might be made.

If any of us puts these kinds of withdrawal systems into practice, then it is likely that we would need to have a little bit of a cushion in our quantity of BTC or perhaps even in the way that we put our system into practice.. to make sure that we are not depleting our stash at a rate that is higher than it is appreciating in value, another reason to evaluate basd on the dollar value of the 200-WMA..