When I discuss the wide range of gambling and betting with friends who are not on the forum, I often notice their flawed thinking. If it were just once, I would not have given it a thought but when their flawed thinking about gambling comes up over and over again it makes me torn between wanting to help them change the way they think or just leaving them to continue with such thinking until some major gambling experience happens and changes it for them. Some type of this flawed thinking is borrowing money from loan apps to gamble thinking that when they win they will pay back the loan and its interest and keep the rest for themselves. They call this gambling, with other people's money. Another flawed thinking is their belief that paid between groups will make them become millionaires faster than if they are not in the paid group. There are others like this.
Just like I have always mentioned, we should avoid taking loans to gamble with, that is not a good approach to go with gambling, most at time's we fail to acknowledge that fact, and some even run into bankruptcy because of that approach pf borrowing to gamble with, we should try as much as possible to avoid any form of actions that put us under pressure.
So long as it not giving pleasure or fun, it has gone beyond just gambling into chasing a particular direction such as chasing the bags and the loses, when gambling becomes money making oriented, anything can happen along the line.