Quote from: mastertrader_ on May 12, 2025, 05:11:48 PM

eXch was by far the most reliable and convenient swapping service to use, I think in shouldn't be compared to bisq.
My opinion is that in the nearest future we won't see any eXch alternative that will be as good as eXch was Cry

Agreed, exch is not the same user experience as bisq. exch was a lot more convenient generally.

There'll be an alternative to exch, and decentralized solutions will present themselves over the coming months and years. For now, we wait for builders to build.

Quote from: mastertrader_ on May 12, 2025, 04:50:54 PM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on April 26, 2025, 04:26:06 AM

There is a swapper aggregator called Trocador. This is very popular in the Monero community to exchange to Monero.

You can also use this to exchange to Solana, Ethereum, Litecoin and stablecoins. This platform will choose the best rates, show you the speed of the exchange and the risk rating of the exchange based on the KYC policy.

https://trocador.app/en/

I am glad that someone has mentioned Trocador! I use this service, it is convenient to compare exchange rates different exchangers offer at the moment I want to make a swap. They also have their own "Privacy rating" that's helpful when choosing an exchanging service.

Quote from: Darker45 on April 22, 2025, 01:14:05 AM

This unknown and shady Quickex can't be compared with eXch. While eXch is highly recommended, Quickex should be highly avoided. The mere fact that the latter requires KYC means they're total opposites.

By the way, Trocador is where I found out about Quickex. I exchange ETH to XMR quite often, and exactly Quickex offers the best rate for this kind of swaps at the moment. They don't have the best "Privacy rating" though it does not matter too much since Trocador insures the deposit and also helps to deal with any kind of issues that occur during the swap.

While Trocador is a useful service, a lot of the exchanges listed there now are what I'd consider medium risk, and this post somewhat proves this point:

Quote from: scammedbyff on May 06, 2025, 05:36:52 PM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on April 26, 2025, 04:26:06 AM

There is a swapper aggregator called Trocador. This is very popular in the Monero community to exchange to Monero.

You can also use this to exchange to Solana, Ethereum, Litecoin and stablecoins. This platform will choose the best rates, show you the speed of the exchange and the risk rating of the exchange based on the KYC policy.

https://trocador.app/en/

I got scammed by FixedFloat recently, and Trocador did nothing to help. Even not honoring their service guarantee despite the fact that FixedFloat clearly violated their own ToS: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5541660

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Quote from: $crypto$ on April 30, 2025, 09:15:21 PM

But for me it is quite big for the minimum deposit (0.002 BTC) less than that the funds will be lost.
I just want to try with a smaller deposit.

I'm also looking for smaller minimums as I tend to have these use cases.

At the moment, there's an exchange that piqued my interest. They have a low minimum during my check:

Exolix - They have the typical KYC/AML policies on their platform but OrangeFren is claiming guaranteed never-kyc for OF users.

Honestly, what do you all think about such claim? On Exolix, they'll probably make us agree to their TOS that includes typical KYC/AML policies. But OrangeFren is reputed and Exolix has $5K OF guaranteed funds on them so might be worth jumping the gun with smaller amounts? 🤔

Swapuz is a ChangeNOW reseller, and they also run another site called Exolix, which similarly resells ChangeNOW’s services.

If you look at the Swapuz Terms of Service from February 2022 (archived here = https://web.archive.org/web/20220213142831/swapuz.com/assets/index.223d937f.js), you’ll find direct references to Exolix. This connection was public knowledge for a while, and both Swapuz and Exolix were listed on Kyc Not Me until someone mentioned off the Kyc Not Me admin about this relationship. As a result, Swapuz was promptly removed from the Kyc Not Me listings.

Despite being caught, representatives from both Swapuz and Exolix have continued to deny any connection between the two platforms. They maintain this stance in public, even though their link was exposed due to a fairly basic oversight.

Given their reluctance to be transparent about their relationship, it’s wise to be cautious and perhaps avoid using either service until they openly acknowledge their connection.

There was also a notable thread on Bitcointalk (⚠️⚠️ 300M+ Ongoing Biggest Crypto Scam LEAK [Changelly & Freewallet and more] ⚠️ = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5499189), which investigated ChangeNOW and its network of related projects-allegedly operated with forged documents.

Exolix was mentioned as part of this network, raising even more questions about its background and trustworthiness.

I would not suggest you to use them.

Is there anything conclusive on Exolix being affiliated with Changelly/Changenow and so on? I've used exolix with no issues or KYC requests. I'm not endorsing the use of it, though I haven't had issues...and an archived js file with exolix's tos (which swapuz puts on their page afaik?) isn't quite enough to definitively tie them both together.

Also, kycnot.me still have exolix on their website. It hasn't been removed.