I think I understand. Do you mean SEEDLESS in the sense that no display ever shows the seed phrase?
Nope, broadly speaking, seedless refers to a wallet that doesn’t rely on seed phrase to generate/recover its private key. AFAIK Tangem is currently the only hardware wallet that fully implements this approach, embedding the private key directly into the card itself. That said, we might see more seedless solutions in the domain of HW, especially if the developers behind certain projects stay committed to this concept. You can find more details about Tangem’s implementation
over there. Once again, I’d like to refer to
Zack Herbert's opinion, where he suggests that seed phrases will soon become obsolete.
yes indeed, with Shell we decided to not create a seedless option because we could not think of a solution that makes the product seedless while not increasing significantly the complexity or attack surface
For instance, in Tangem solution, we considered that the fact that if anyone grabs two of your cards (when you've used seedless option to set them up) they can access all your funds was a blocker for this solution. But same thing if there is good way to do it, we think about, or someone contributes too I am sure we or the community of developers working on this will implement.
Oh and also, based on your feedbacks, we confirm 25th passphrase will be implemented in Shell UI (it's already supported in keycard software), being tracked here:
github issue