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Re: My AI experiment on the forum
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stwenhao
on 13/06/2025, 20:32:05 UTC
⭐ Merited by vapourminer (1)
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I haven't move to the dark side, as i told before i will not use AI again on the forum, you can be sure of that
Good for you, because you probably can't even imagine, how much worse it could be. If you allowed some AI to have unrestricted access to your account, or in general, if you allowed posting any content, then think about jailbreaks. Think about convincing your bot to post CP, or other strictly illegal content. And if all of that was done from some clearnet IP, then guess who would be chased by authorities, when needed.

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I'm trying to show to the community where we are about AI
I can tell you where we are, when it comes to some paths, which are explored from Cyber Security perspective. Many people are no longer interested in just generating some AI content. It became too easy, and there are too many tools for that. The more interesting thing to explore, is how models were trained, and what was the original, unmodified training data.

There are prompts, which can give you completely unmodified training data, just as a plaintext. The whole thing, which AI currently does, is just putting more noise on training data, and mixing it to become hard to recognize the original input. However, data recovery is possible. Many things are archived on many pages. Dots can be connected. And then, if you know, how the "AI noise" is generated, then you can remove it.

So, what happens if someone can uncover the truth? For example, it can very ofter turn out, that the training data is some copyrighted material. Taken without asking anyone for permission, and mixed to hide traces. However, if you can prove, that some licenses or other rights were violated, then guess who will be chased. There were examples, where people read newspapers behind paywall, by just asking AI to complete some parapgraphs, taken from prefaces, which were available for free.

Which means, that you are now worried about users, who are unaware, where we are, when it comes to "AI progress". But you seem to completely ignore the fact, that your great AI can be used against you, and because you let it running, you gave it your own digital identity, and you are paid in signature campaigns, then you are the one, who can be legally accused of many things, and chased by those, who will know, how to jailbreak your AI.

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we must be ready for that or AI will kill the forum
It probably won't "kill" things. It will slow everything down. There are lots of open source projects, which are now constantly crawled by many AI bots, from different IP addresses, by different companies, and people are trying to milk all possible data out of them. But guess what: many sites are putting Proof of Work protections in place.

Which means, that if you want to make browsing bitcointalk harder, if you want to see more cloudflare-like stuff, and if you want to encounter more CAPTCHAs, then go on. Use AI. Abuse it more. Then, not only you will make everyone else's experience worse, but also yours, if people will put more protections in place, and you will be left in a graveyard, filled with other AI bots, because you wouldn't know, where real humans went, when you didn't pay attention.

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i was expecting to get caught by the forum staff
Maybe you didn't notice, but many discussions moved from bitcointalk to other places. It is no longer a central place for developing things. It is rather a playground, when many people experiment, and talk to each other, but there are more serious places, for more serious discussions. Maybe that playground is important, maybe it is deeply archived, and censorship-resistant, but nonetheless, it is still a playground.

Also, why some people should try to catch you, if they can ignore you, and let you taste your own medicine, by moving you into some echo chamber, when you will talk with other AI bots, thinking that you outsmarted other people, while you are just shadowbanned? This is also the way to fight with AI spam: by putting spammers together, so they can be properly isolated from the rest of the community.

Many times, things are not moderated, because people just click "ignore" button, instead of "report".