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Re: [Discussion] Bitcoin Pizza Day on Bitcointalk 🍕
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JayJuanGee
on 26/06/2025, 00:54:25 UTC
⭐ Merited by babo (1)
I was wondering if I could vote for my pizza ?  Tongue
This should not only be allowed but strongly encouraged, despite looking not very honourable at first glance.
If all participants were to cast a vote on their own pizza, that would even things out and would effectively have no impact.

But if voting on their own pizza is disallowed or frowned upon, then it discourages participants from voting at all (i.e. on other pizzas) as that would be acting against their interest.

Maybe for the next edition, we could have a rule that you can vote on your own pizza, but only if you also cast votes on other ones.

I have not voted yet.. and I know it is getting closer and closer and closer to the wire... .. and so I don't mind whether I vote or not.. even though sometimes there can be a bit of a process to either to add or to eliminate and to narrow down the contenders, since a pizza could be great on one set of grounds and then not as great on another set of grounds.. but then at the same time, there could be questions regarding which grounds are more important or might there be a draw, since virtually there surely can be limitations or even questions about if the process of making the pizza was described well enough or if the member really put some effort into the process or was any aspect of the description or the photos lending inferences that the member was not really putting in the work of making the pizza or do the photos do the pizza and the process justice.

I also don't mind if I vote for my own pizza or not. I likely am not going to vote for my own pizza.. but I am not against the idea of any member choosing to vote for his own pizza, whether he likes the other pizzas or not.. or if he truly believes his pizza is the best or at least amongst the top 5 pizzas..

I suppose one of the issues of having the vote public, which is both good and bad, and has already been mentioned that the fact that others can see how we vote could end up affecting how we vote.. which surely is not a bad thing, even though it could change some dynamics in how members choose to vote...but icopress's method of attempting to detach the names from the pizza does make it a bit more difficult to trace down who submitted each pizza submission.. which likely does allow more focus on voting for the pizza based on the one picture that was used as the sample of the pizza contender.. even though surely there were some members who presented a variety of photos and even described their pizza-making process in interesting and/or detailed ways that might attract or detract from their getting a vote, so I am a bit ambivalent about how much value comes from detaching from being able to look up the process that any contender might have had described or if they just submitted one or two photos that might even bring questions to how much they participated int he process of showing their pizza.. .. and some members might not even give any shits about if any of the contenders described or showed evidence of their pizza-making process..

Let's say that as a voter, I purposefully decided to do my initial screening of the pizzas based on the one picture that is used to show their submission, so I error on the side of being inclusive, and so I screen out (or screen down) the number of pizzas from 144 to 20 or some reasonable number merely based on the one picture. 

Then after I reduced the contenders down to 20 potential finalists, then maybe I would want to look each one of them up to see more details about how the pizzas were submitted and described in terms of the process.... and yeah, maybe I would allow the members user-name and status in the forum affect my decision-making process.  The various kinds of additional factors beyond the mere one photo could end up helping me to further reduce my number of conders down to 10 or maybe even fewer contenders.. and then maybe once I get down to some reasonable number of contenders, then maybe I would then pick 5 of them randomly from the group of finalists that i had chosen...

Of course, even the process that I describe is somewhat objective, even though surely the user name is considered to be mostly irrelevant, but once the voter is able to link back to the original post, then he has the potential bias of the user's name.   And sure, maybe there is some value in objectivity for this particular contest.. Perhaps? perhaps? 

Part of the reason for votes is to attempt to allow a bit of subjectivity, but then subjectivity that is on a broader level rather than having a committee of pizza judging experts.. and sure there are some folks who may well be good judges of the pizza making and pizza presenting process.. .. or maybe the goals are not subjectivity exactly but a kind of hope for the wisdom of the crowds?. .. but yeah, A popularity contest for people (members) or for the looks of pizzas?.. and why can't we sample each of the pizzas?  huh? Why? I heard that pizzas are infinitely divisible... just like bitcoin... maybe one of these years one of the members will figure out a way to allow us to virtually sample his pizza...

Is that better than trying to bribe us with a hidden seed phrase, that wasn't very hidden, except for the fact that the member couldn't figure out how to properly show his images.. and surely that is almost creative enough to deserve votes.. even though surely I had not voted yet.. and part of the problem of submitting a pizza could cause the impression that the member is agitating for his pizza or against other pizzas.. hahahahaha.. part of the reason that I discontinued having a paid signature relates to accusations that I used to receive about my supposedly giving any shits about the signature that I had at the bottom of my forum posts. and surely after wearing the signature for a while, I can see how sometimes the bias might be considered to be an arguable factor..