I quoted you. You said no CLV or value bets. XYes has no such rule. Sure, in a huge case where someone is max betting both sides they may go and ask around to share but not for $200. I'll bet you don't have the bet slips but I'm not betting on more fake documents.
Like flexie said, Pinnacle doesn't share. They do everything in-house as far as risk management. Some do things in-house, some outsource. The only time they will share is in a big case. Maybe XYes is just lying to you and you are passing it on. All I know is that a lot of what's been posted isn't true.
Keep posting bet slips in the future since these tell the story. Sometimes immediately and sometimes it takes some digging such as looking at line histories.
Trying to twist narrative again to save your ass, eh? We're not blind here, Peeps. But maybe you need some guidance and is really clueless.
This is where it begins, with you explaining about CLV [that I first ever heard of]:
I edited my post. Had 2nd thoughts on discussing but since you asked.
1. Value betting= CLV (closing line Value) not arbitrage.
2. All 5 of your reps were wrong. They said the odds provider makes the final decision.
3. You only got a headache because you were unaware of the meaning of CLV. You should have stopped when they showed no proof of arbitrage.
4. I know what those player analysis sheets are that you are talking about. Once again it said Value or CLV. It didn’t say arbitrage from the provider and you know it.
5. There is no middle ground. XYes made up another story and changed from Value to Arb.
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Example of value betting:
OP makes a bet at odds of 2.25.
Line closes 2.15.
It has 0 to do with arbitrage.
Make a few of these in a row and account gets flagged for value betting.
this is my complete reply [snipping irrelevant post and your own post I quote as it's already quoted above]:
I edited my post. Had 2nd thoughts on discussing but since you asked.
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No, it says "arbitrage bet", not CLV, no other thing. Specifically "arbitrage bet".
And here's one more interesting thing: I only glanced at OP's image on the opening post to see his three bets, as [honest to any divine being here] I was too shocked that the casino asked for verbal consent, I thought it's way too excessive. And when my contact showed me the evidence, I was only glancing at it too... well, I read, but I didn't commit it to my memory, as I don't want to deliberately store private information of players I'm "bridging", I'm here just to get to the bottom of cases and resolutions, not being nosy.
Only earlier today when I try to understand where that 20 USD number come from, that I peeked at OP's opening post again and re-read his betting history, and mull over the facts and possible middle-ground. I made that post, inquiring the possibility of arbing due to the uneven wager, and then leave for RL.
Only much later after that "earlier today", very much later after I make that post, that I realized I can confirm myself, so I look into the name of the bet OP provided here and the evidence given to me by my contact, and they matched. So yeah, that bet is what flag him. No need to question whether the bet placed in odd number because OP felt funny or want to round his balance, or just there to be fancy. It's there because or arb. At the very least, that's what perceived by the provider.
To summarize: no CLV, no value betting, no syndicate betting, no bot-betting or whatever-other-betting, specifically "arbitrage bet", and the provider risk team
is the one that flag this.
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I explain to you, in regards to your point number 4 where you propose that It didn’t say arbitrage from the provider, it's CLV, and I know it, and the explanation says that the evidence I saw, the flag raised by the provider is not CLV or any other bets, it's arbitrage bet. So yeah, "no CLV, no value bet, no syndicate betting [...]" as what the provider says is arbitrage betting.
That's me changing rules?
I raise five points. I expect them all answered.
1. You advised people to avoid casino detection. As an owner of a thread which rate casinos, what then? If players do your advise and avoid detection and got caught by whatever ToS violation? What do you expect us, as the forum, do?
2. Show us prove that I make up things and posting rules that's not from XYes page and adding CLV on my own.
3. You'll bet whatever I want to bet that I can or can not prove that XYes has proof or arbitrage betting or you don't care about the stuffs because things got too hot and too real and your tails suddenly tucked?
4. Point us to the things I made up both darwstall's and ziportans's thread.
5. show me where in this thread that holy changing the rules saying that value betting was illegal.