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Re: [Discussion] Bitcoin Pizza Day on Bitcointalk 🍕
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JayJuanGee
on 02/07/2025, 20:46:16 UTC
⭐ Merited by fillippone (3)
If we're recommending stuff, please just make the rule that you can't vote for your own entry (pizza, pumpkin, whatever) official going forward.

My blood boils a bit after every 'can I vote for myself' question. No, you can't, not sure what sort of a contestant even asks something like this.
Let the blood boil.   That seems to be on you. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
We can agree to disagree.

i don't see anything wrong with a participant voting for his own pizza, if he were to have a pizza in the contest, if he were eligible to vote, and if he were to choose to vote for his own pizza.
Yeah, you can say that - but we as a community should look to eradicate any kind of 'dicky' behavior and not support it.
I hate to see great ideas being ruined by shitty behavior - it is detrimental to any fun contests that can be done for the benefit of us all in the future.

Make your pizza, let people vote, if it's great you should get the reward. If people group up to vote, punish them because they don't work towards improving the contest but towards personal gain.
If a person votes for himself, well, he's a dick that thinks only about his own benefit - it's as clear as that.
Allowing people to vote for their own pizzas basically means that you reward dicks with 1 extra vote, and if fair players want to reach even ground they need to become dicks as well. Not great, don't you agree?

Your further explanation does not help to convince me.  I see no materially significant problem with voting for your own pizza... and yeah, since we can see the votes, maybe there could be a bit of irony if the person who won and the person who got second place had ONLY a 1 vote spread and the one who one had voted for himself while the one who got second place did not vote for himself.  That might constitute a bit of "awkwardness," no?

On the other hand, I see problems with other kinds of behaviors, such as colluding votes.

It is harder to have fun, if some of the intention of individual votes is being manipulated, since many of us likely consider voting about favorite pizzas is more subjective rather than group-think and/or politics.., or even accusations of colluding for financial benefits.   

I surely don't claim to know the answers regarding the various balances, yet I hardly consider voting for yourself (at least in this pizza context) to be a sufficient enough of a problem, including that the remedy of disallowing such a self-voting thingie might be worse than any arguable problem in allowing such self-voting abilities.

PS: At this time, I have zero knowledge of whom the protagonists of this story are and neither which local board it is!

Personally, I believe that voting in the pizza preference context should be individually subjective rather than political or group-think, and I don't understand the specifics of such claims of colluding either.

Wait you mean someone can decide to pay people to vote for a contest open for the entire globe and in which winning is not even guaranteed?
Yes. It isn't even that far-fetched. I wouldn't say voting is open for everyone: only 3709 users have earned enough Merit to be eligible to vote.

Interesting statistic in terms of the total possible number of voters, even if everyone were to attempt to vote.

If this is true, the competition will unfortunately no longer be of any interest.
Agreed. The current format of this competition feels disconnected from the spirit of the original event.

One could reshape it similar to this:
1)Order pizza and pay with BTC anytime during the year*.
2)Share proof of your purchases during "Bitcoin Pizza Day on Bitcointalk" by placing relevant receipts and photos.
3)Users who’ve bought the most pizzas with BTCand eaten them Grin become the winners.
*) Subject to discuss.

I like the idea of making a pizza, submitting photos and a description of the process and then voting to be better than having a contest over the buying of pizzas with bitcoin and eating such pizzas.