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Re: July 24, 2024 shall henceforth be known as America's National Day of Shame
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franky1
on 12/07/2025, 20:01:21 UTC
Perhaps there's misunderstanding in definitions  Huh A rather very simple question for you: please define "proportionality of a response", and a "genocide". That is, what threshold must be crossed for you to say that the loss of innocent lives in Gaza would be considered a genocide? Or are you're claiming that there are no limits, numbers don't matter, and Israel can wipe out million of innocent women and children in Gaza and you would still consider it a proportional response as long as IDF draws a happy face and writes "only use on Hamas" on every bullet or some other justification?

Genocide is the intentional destruction of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group.
isreal is not trying to ethnically clense al palestinians. nor are the palestinians the intended targets. hamas are the targets. palestinians are the unintentional collateral damage due to how hamas control the area and people they dont want to leave the area(human shields)

isreal is not trying to "wipe out millions of innocent women and children in Gaza" isreal continually give warnings to the innocent population that hamas have infiltrated their neighbourhood and turned it into a target zone and isreal give innocent people a warning to move out the area so isreal can deal with hamas..

hamas are the ones dictating that people should stay put and become human shields.
hamas wont even let some groups move out of temporary tents in winter to find more suitable shelter. yep hamas want people to freeze to death and not get aid

and with regards to aid, isreal are the ones trying to bring in aid supplies.. but its hamas that are using palestinians as cannon fodder by hamas dictating that innocent palestinians should blockade and ambush the supply trucks, and its then hamas that steal the food and hoard it. hamas rile up the innocent palestinians to turn them into rioters to cause conflict

hamas also use schools, churches and hospitals as their hiding places, hoping that the human shields of palestinians using that infrastructure would protect them from attack.. but when isreal send warnings that this area is now a warzone target and innocent people should move out the way, but again hamas dictate that innocent people should stay.. thus its hamas causing unneeded casualties/collateral damage

if hamas simply did not exist, palestinians and isreali's would have had peace deals done years ago

iran and hamas dont care about who they kill, especially when hamas are now even killing palestinians that are trying to get the food out of the hamas storage yards
iran dont hit only strategic military targets as a priority, they mass bomb random residential buildings with no political/intellectual/military personnel, thus no strategic purpose but to harm innocents